Everyone: Check Your Oil!
#1156
Originally Posted by V35 Skyline GT
Yes I changed my oil a lot. My Tribologist I consult with suggested that. Get the assembly lubes outta there ASAP and there will be lots of fuel dilute that shears the crap out of the oil during early break-in periods.
Just take her easy from now on for a bit. Stay under 4K rpm, vary rpm's while cruizin fwy, you've already (in a sense) done a break-in method I did with still using factory method. Just I didn't go over 4K rpm doing it and only 5-6 times WOT, then back to factory method to 3750mi. (not 1200)
I suggest, if you do more oil changes even after 500mi and before the 3750 mark like I did, get an UOA done on the interval when you reach 3750. I did and my analysis shows a good build and breaking in nicely. And got the green light to step it up a notch and can start romping on it more safely on a regular basis.
These VQ by no means have completed their break-in period by 1200mi like Infiniti or Nissan says. Raw data numbers on UOA's don't lie.
Just take her easy from now on for a bit. Stay under 4K rpm, vary rpm's while cruizin fwy, you've already (in a sense) done a break-in method I did with still using factory method. Just I didn't go over 4K rpm doing it and only 5-6 times WOT, then back to factory method to 3750mi. (not 1200)
I suggest, if you do more oil changes even after 500mi and before the 3750 mark like I did, get an UOA done on the interval when you reach 3750. I did and my analysis shows a good build and breaking in nicely. And got the green light to step it up a notch and can start romping on it more safely on a regular basis.
These VQ by no means have completed their break-in period by 1200mi like Infiniti or Nissan says. Raw data numbers on UOA's don't lie.
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I'll change her oil again, but do you know of any place that runs a UOA on used oil? Firestone didn't. I'll still drive her gingerly, but 3750 is pretty high up there. I don't know if I won't be able to refrain from pushing her
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#1157
Originally Posted by Gammawolf
I changed her oil at 500 miles before I went to Vegas, but they didn't have a UOA checking system. I then took her to Vegas this past week for a business trip. Didn't go above 4k rpms and just a few times to about 5k rpms. She now has close to 1400 miles on her. I can notice a difference in feel but I still want to drive with discretion. I gotta tell you, for that long trip from Vegas to San Diego with my rpms stuck at 3k for the majority of the time, it looked like I was getting 25 mpg or more
I was really impressed with the gas mileage and I was still cruising at 80.
I'll change her oil again, but do you know of any place that runs a UOA on used oil? Firestone didn't. I'll still drive her gingerly, but 3750 is pretty high up there. I don't know if I won't be able to refrain from pushing her![Icon43](https://g35driver.com/forums/images/smilies/icon43.gif)
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I'll change her oil again, but do you know of any place that runs a UOA on used oil? Firestone didn't. I'll still drive her gingerly, but 3750 is pretty high up there. I don't know if I won't be able to refrain from pushing her
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UOA's are a specialized service. You order service first, then they send you a sample bottle to fill when it's time, then send in for analysis. I use www.dysonanalysis.com Terry Dyson will take good care of you concerning your V2. He has with mine and others. Blackstone Labs is another UOA service as well.
Last edited by V35 Skyline GT; 11-13-2008 at 11:33 AM. Reason: added Blackstone Labs
#1158
Hey guys, I have an '07 6MT that has the OC problem. I haven't taken it in yet. I don't really think I would be satisfied with a new engine. My initial thought is, who knows what else is going wrong when they replace the engine? Its hardly a new car after a total engine replacement, right? All the electrical connections, and whatever other connections (I'm no mechanic) may not even be reinstalled properly, resulting in even more problems in the future.
Even reselling it may be problematic. I surely wouldn't buy a used car knowing it had to have the engine replaced. Many people on this message board are on their 2nd and 3rd engines, that is absolutely unacceptable. I want Infiniti to buy this defective piece of junk back, not keep throwing engines at it that continue to be consuming oil.
I am a lawyer and was wondering if there are other lawyers on this forum? I would love to discus legal remedies available to all of us with this OC problem and Infiniti's games (overfilling oil, using 10w30 instead of 5w30). Please PM me or post here, thanks.
Even reselling it may be problematic. I surely wouldn't buy a used car knowing it had to have the engine replaced. Many people on this message board are on their 2nd and 3rd engines, that is absolutely unacceptable. I want Infiniti to buy this defective piece of junk back, not keep throwing engines at it that continue to be consuming oil.
I am a lawyer and was wondering if there are other lawyers on this forum? I would love to discus legal remedies available to all of us with this OC problem and Infiniti's games (overfilling oil, using 10w30 instead of 5w30). Please PM me or post here, thanks.
Last edited by fusQer; 11-19-2008 at 08:13 PM.
#1159
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#1160
Originally Posted by Texasscout
You don't even know what they will offer you yet and you want to sue them. Typical Lawyer..
Geessh... They offer to install a hand built VQ35 in your car and your pissed? Some people are just never satisfied.
Geessh... They offer to install a hand built VQ35 in your car and your pissed? Some people are just never satisfied.
As for what you think is such a great offer by Infiniti regarding the VQ35, (1) you've already paid them once to do it at the time of purchase, they failed, (2) they are not "offering" it as you seem to assume, you have to play their games and jump through hoops to even get a replacement: they unethically over fill the oil, and/or fill with 10w30 instead of 5w30 so it leaks slower), and (3) even if you do get a replacement, you will have to most likely play their game all over again because it will continue to consume oil.
Again, if you are satisfied owning a defective $35k+ piece of machinery built by a company that is treating you and other owners like sh**, then more power to you. I want only what I originally paid for, and am determined to get it.
Last edited by fusQer; 11-19-2008 at 08:09 PM.
#1161
I had not read this thread. I have an 04 G Sedan and last month it was making a weird crackling sound. I took it for a check up and I was informed that the engine had absolutely no oil. I had performed the previous oil change at a local mechanic (Not Infiniti) and they (Infiniti) blamed the other shop. They said that probably no oil had been added. They said they had verified egine and no leaks or damages had been observed.
I will take it to be verified immediately and keep you all posted on their response.
I will take it to be verified immediately and keep you all posted on their response.
#1162
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Originally Posted by fusQer
I've read the TSB, I've read this forum, I know what they will offer me, and its not worth what I originally paid and bargained for. If you are satisfied with your replacement and feel its worth your hard earned (or not) money, then more power to you. I don't like being taken advantage of.
As for what you think is such a great offer by Infiniti regarding the VQ35, (1) you've already paid them once to do it at the time of purchase, they failed, (2) they are not "offering" it as you seem to assume, you have to play their games and jump through hoops to even get a replacement: they unethically over fill the oil, and/or fill with 10w30 instead of 5w30 so it leaks slower), and (3) even if you do get a replacement, you will have to most likely play their game all over again because it will continue to consume oil.
Again, if you are satisfied owning a defective $35k+ piece of machinery built by a company that is treating you and other owners like sh**, then more power to you. I want only what I originally paid for, and am determined to get it.
As for what you think is such a great offer by Infiniti regarding the VQ35, (1) you've already paid them once to do it at the time of purchase, they failed, (2) they are not "offering" it as you seem to assume, you have to play their games and jump through hoops to even get a replacement: they unethically over fill the oil, and/or fill with 10w30 instead of 5w30 so it leaks slower), and (3) even if you do get a replacement, you will have to most likely play their game all over again because it will continue to consume oil.
Again, if you are satisfied owning a defective $35k+ piece of machinery built by a company that is treating you and other owners like sh**, then more power to you. I want only what I originally paid for, and am determined to get it.
Second, maybe I don't understand what you object to. This is not costing you anything, they even give you a loaner. I would be more than happy that they are doing anything at all. Your car will be worth much more with the new engine when you sell or trade. General Motors says one quart in 800 miles is considered "normal". I don't think so.
#1163
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Originally Posted by GreeddyG35
I had not read this thread. I have an 04 G Sedan and last month it was making a weird crackling sound. I took it for a check up and I was informed that the engine had absolutely no oil. I had performed the previous oil change at a local mechanic (Not Infiniti) and they (Infiniti) blamed the other shop. They said that probably no oil had been added. They said they had verified egine and no leaks or damages had been observed.
I will take it to be verified immediately and keep you all posted on their response.
I will take it to be verified immediately and keep you all posted on their response.
#1164
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#1166
Originally Posted by fusQer
I've read the TSB, I've read this forum, I know what they will offer me, and its not worth what I originally paid and bargained for. If you are satisfied with your replacement and feel its worth your hard earned (or not) money, then more power to you. I don't like being taken advantage of.
As for what you think is such a great offer by Infiniti regarding the VQ35, (1) you've already paid them once to do it at the time of purchase, they failed, (2) they are not "offering" it as you seem to assume, you have to play their games and jump through hoops to even get a replacement: they unethically over fill the oil, and/or fill with 10w30 instead of 5w30 so it leaks slower), and (3) even if you do get a replacement, you will have to most likely play their game all over again because it will continue to consume oil.
Again, if you are satisfied owning a defective $35k+ piece of machinery built by a company that is treating you and other owners like sh**, then more power to you. I want only what I originally paid for, and am determined to get it.
As for what you think is such a great offer by Infiniti regarding the VQ35, (1) you've already paid them once to do it at the time of purchase, they failed, (2) they are not "offering" it as you seem to assume, you have to play their games and jump through hoops to even get a replacement: they unethically over fill the oil, and/or fill with 10w30 instead of 5w30 so it leaks slower), and (3) even if you do get a replacement, you will have to most likely play their game all over again because it will continue to consume oil.
Again, if you are satisfied owning a defective $35k+ piece of machinery built by a company that is treating you and other owners like sh**, then more power to you. I want only what I originally paid for, and am determined to get it.
I got a new motor at 24k. just past 2k on it. break in consumption is getting back to what i consider not a problem and the new motor is pulling strong.
I think a replaced V2 in an 06 adds to the resale value not detracts. It's a pita to get it but if you can navigate through the hoops the end result is worth it. The person who buys your car should you decide to sell doesn't have to.
New motor = as close as you get to a brand new car. I love the car. new motor makes it even better. I rolled back the clock 24k miles.
If you want to sue do everybody a favor and sue for a recall. They should be replacing all. It's not all about you.
#1167
I have recently moved from michigan to alabama. needless to say u.s. cars and trucks rule the highway in michigan. As I have moved here I see alot of foreign cars. This g35 has really caught my eye. I will not buy new the amount of depreciation is not worth it and you can find so many slightly used g35's around with low mileage. but after reading this I don't want to be replacing motors and checking/adding oil with every fuel fill up. I already have that! I drive a 93 saturn SC1 had it forever. SOHC I4 1.9L this oil consumption problem has plauged them from the start as well. either stuck piston rings or bad valve guides. they replaced the motor at 46K, but none the less I'm at 186K now and burning a quart every 500miles. I have resorted to buying the 5 quart jugs and keeping it in the trunk and checking the oil after every fuel fill up. I don't want another car like this! I really like the looks of this car and would like to own it.. but if this is what I have to look forward to then forget it! My wife's Envoy Denali 06 does not drop in oil level from 0 - 5000 miles! I do the oil changes and use mobil 1 5000.. It would be very hard to buy this car and see if it is burning oil and take it back if it is.. I would only need two weeks with the amount of driving that I do.. This is the car that has caught my eye.
http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...=&aff=national
But I wonder why it is being sold with so few miles on it? Maybe it just had a new motor put in it and they traded it in for something else? Very worried?!?! Please advise what to look for or if I should even consider this.. If not I am buying a SKY Redline..
http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...=&aff=national
But I wonder why it is being sold with so few miles on it? Maybe it just had a new motor put in it and they traded it in for something else? Very worried?!?! Please advise what to look for or if I should even consider this.. If not I am buying a SKY Redline..
#1168
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Originally Posted by ucantcme57
I have recently moved from michigan to alabama. needless to say u.s. cars and trucks rule the highway in michigan. As I have moved here I see alot of foreign cars. This g35 has really caught my eye. I will not buy new the amount of depreciation is not worth it and you can find so many slightly used g35's around with low mileage. but after reading this I don't want to be replacing motors and checking/adding oil with every fuel fill up. I already have that! I drive a 93 saturn SC1 had it forever. SOHC I4 1.9L this oil consumption problem has plauged them from the start as well. either stuck piston rings or bad valve guides. they replaced the motor at 46K, but none the less I'm at 186K now and burning a quart every 500miles. I have resorted to buying the 5 quart jugs and keeping it in the trunk and checking the oil after every fuel fill up. I don't want another car like this! I really like the looks of this car and would like to own it.. but if this is what I have to look forward to then forget it! My wife's Envoy Denali 06 does not drop in oil level from 0 - 5000 miles! I do the oil changes and use mobil 1 5000.. It would be very hard to buy this car and see if it is burning oil and take it back if it is.. I would only need two weeks with the amount of driving that I do.. This is the car that has caught my eye.
http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...=&aff=national
But I wonder why it is being sold with so few miles on it? Maybe it just had a new motor put in it and they traded it in for something else? Very worried?!?! Please advise what to look for or if I should even consider this.. If not I am buying a SKY Redline..
http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...=&aff=national
But I wonder why it is being sold with so few miles on it? Maybe it just had a new motor put in it and they traded it in for something else? Very worried?!?! Please advise what to look for or if I should even consider this.. If not I am buying a SKY Redline..
#1169
Originally Posted by Texasscout
Very well could have been the other shop. From what has been posted here, it's only the 05' and earlier "rev-up" motors with 6MT that have the OC problem.
Originally Posted by V35 Skyline GT
correction...05 revups and later. No revups were produced earier than 2005
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Originally Posted by Texasscout
^^^^ Whs
Originally Posted by EncoreCestMoi
If you want to sue do everybody a favor and sue for a recall. They should be replacing all. It's not all about you.
My NHTSA thread ---> https://g35driver.com/forums/g-spot/188688-owners-vq-oil-consumption.html