how does anything become giving a 16 year old kid a 280hp car? i dunno how u came up to that conclusion badzim...

i think we are talking about how people are bragging about their car that they didn't earn and the other people feel that they shouldn't...

again...280hp is not as extreme as you think...its not like its a rocket....if they are going to race...they would race with their civics and is300...if they are not...even if u give them a corvette..they wouldn't...so..i think we are missing the point here....its not like i ever feel like i can't control my car....

 

i dunno....afterall its only a G35. I wouldent consider buying a 19 yr old a G35 is considered spoil??lol
I have freinds that drives Carrera 911 and M3s, their parents bought them the car. Now that's spoiled.

 

G35fanatic,

I was not insulting you; I was saying that I find it funny how someone who is as lucky as you used the word MAYBE instead of the words HELL YEAH!!! Luckily the next few posters picked up on this.

DED has his head screwed on straight! Spoil your kids and you teach them to EXPECT things in life to be handed to them. If you make them get a job, buy their own car, even if it’s an old junker (as long as it’s safe and reliable), they will learn that the only way to succeed in life is through hard work. They will have to work to make a payment, pay for repairs, gas, insurance, etc… This is what instills values and self fulfillment.

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Hey moron, when you lease a car... how much are you actually paying? I never said we bought the car... I actually saved my parents money by going with the STi, so keep your dumb, uninformed comments to yourself

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… just go to prove my point. If you actually knew how much your parents were paying to lease/break a lease, whatever… two $35,000 cars you wouldn’t have to ask me. [img]/w3timages/icons/tongue.gif[/img]

Again, a person’s financial situation (whether they buy their wife’s expensive vehicles or not DED) should be considered PERSONAL INFORMATION that is not shared with others. NOTHING GOOD CAN COME OUT OF IT. G35fanatic just proved that point!!!

I guess I should say... "thank you for insulting me G35fanatic and proving my point"? (Boy that's weird...[img]/w3timages/icons/wink.gif[/img])

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Just to add my .02 in this thread...I'm 20 (was 19 when I got my car) and I pay the entire $500+ lease payment + my gas money (~150/ month) My parents pay for the insurance, which covers me for their cars as well. I also put the 5k down on my car. I don't feel that I'm spoiled by my parents at all. I was just lucky enough that my parents let me take on this car and accept it as a responsibility.

 

Mooo same thing with me, at first they didnt want me to get a coupe or stick but my mom knows i started driving at a young age and was for the most part pretty experienced, but illegally :/ Anyway now 280 hp is shitt to me, if an unexperienced driver gets behind the wheel it could be dangerous, but i get into e55amg's and other high powered cars and could handle them like a sports car. An M3 on the other hand IS that fast, people dont think so but my friend went in to buy one, and the salesman said we wont sell this to your son, he will kill himself and we dont want it on our conscious, that's crazy, and my other friend they were begging him to take driving lessons before getting into it, they're no joke and that's prob my next step, but i cant afford it right now.


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I think young people who are given nice cars by their parents can handle it just fine as long as they know they're expected to, they appreciate what it implies, and know the stakes if they don't handle it well (like having it taken away).

My brother and his wife have a 22 year old daughter who they just bought a new Honda CR-V for (it was her choice to get an SUV). I witnessed a conversation where she practically insisted on taking on some of the financial burden for the car, even though she has almost no means to do so. She's off to grad school in Boston, and suggested she could get a part-time job to help pay for it. Her parents gratefully declined the offer, but it shows that kids can be "spoiled" like this and...not really get spoiled at all. On the contrary, it shows that the difference is all in how the kid handles it. If he/she's got their head on straight they'll do just fine.

Furthermore, learning how it feels to have nice things may help to raise standards for their lives later, motivating them to do what it takes to get those kinds of things for themselves when they're on their own. While I was never given an expensive new car (in fairness my parents really couldn't have afforded it), I was given many fine things in my youth, and the taste for them I acquired stayed with me. I made sure to do what it took to (eventually) maintain those standards as an adult.

On the other hand, I'm not advocating a materialistic life by any means. But the pleasure of having nice things in a balanced life is a good thing, IMO, and can be properly instilled in young people by exposing them to it in the right measure.

 

your only spoiled if someone pays for it..

If your 19 and paid it off yourself..and people are being ignorant..then their just jealous..

I give props to anyone that is young and has a g35 and used their own money to pay for it...give credit where credit is due..if you bash on this..you should not be on this forum...

Anyways, sorry but this forum is not goin to "[censored]." If we did not have the team of mods and admins..then you can call it that..

This whole thread is talkin about a handful of members that are doing this...



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You know, this got me to thinking about something - something that isn't really related to this conversation but it is. Since it is a message board I will just throw out my opinion.

To give you an idea of where i'm coming from, this WAS the first car I had purchased, before I had a bunch of junk cars, but since i'm 24 and have a great engineering job I went ahead and got the G35.

One thing that DOES trouble me however with younger kids driving this car isn't the fact that it has 280 HP but more importantly, they can do better the next time they purchase one themselves. Its human nature to want something better once you've already had it - I am sure we can all relate. Hell, I think now, my next car will be in the 50-60K range, however, how disappointing would it be to take a step backwards and get something that isn't nice as the G?

Maybe it was just my parents but they always taught me to keep moving up and progressively get better. I can only hope you teens can do the same (I'm not saying you can't). But having a 35-40K car at 16-19 makes it pretty tough. Hopefully you won't be disappointed later on in life.

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haha, but why would someone downgrade from a g35 if its already paid for?they'll always have. just because they have a nice car at a young age doesn't increase the chances that they will be disappointed in life....lol


Its a car for god sakes.

 

One more thing. I mean, is the car that you drive really that important? A 35k dollar car is not good enough? Why not take that money and buy a house instead of trying to impress ppl in the streets by buying a more expensive car.

I would never spend over 50k for a car even if i could afford it.

 

Pratik97, I completely agree with you.

For being 17 and getting the G in a few months, I started wondering about what would happen to me when the G finally ran its life out. For my second car being a 30k - 40k .. it would be TRUELY disappointing to move down.

My parents as well, have taught me to keep moving up, so it has been instilled in me at a young age to try to be come extremely sucessful in life. I only hope that the G last me 7-10 years so that I can have my feet firmly planted in the field I wish to work in, and hopefully make enough money to buy something better.

I hope as well...that I won't be disappointed either...

 

you guys are taking this car thing way too seriously. is the car you drive the only important goal in your life?

I mean cmon. You are so caught up in what you will drive in 10 years that you are afraid you will be disappointed in life if you don't drive something more expensive?

There are more importand things in life to be worrying about a car. I'd rather be driving a 20k car with a nice house then a 50k car living in an apt.

 

We're not driving Vanquishes here. If a kid gets a nice car, it's not necessarily (in fact, usually not) because he/she is spoiled. I wish people would take that to heart, but I have a really big feeling they won't. If a family can live within certain means, then they have every right to do so, and who are any of us to judge?

Kids who scream in the supermarket and have their parents explain it away, instead of getting "the look" are spoiled. Kids who run around nice restaurants tripping waiters while their parents say, "isn't that darling?" are spoiled. Kids who act like terrors on the airplane while their parents just try to ignore it are spoiled. Spoiled is a result of bad parenting, not bad kids.

Parents who say, "We've decided to get you a gift." and buy a nice car, that is WELL within their means, are not spoiling their children; they're just making the decision that suits them best. Think about it. The car holds its value, is safe as hell, has enough power to get them out of sticky situations, and is from a reliable marque.

I personally will never buy my kids a Chevy Celebrity, etc. to teach them the value of a dollar-- hopefully they'll get to learn that by working. There is more than one way to teach the value of a dollar. The smartest thing they can do when they're young is SAVE their money and invest it; I'm not having them pour it down the drain on a car when I'm perfectly capable of doing that myself (with a better interest rate, to boot). I'd rather watch their faces as they accrue interest on intelligent decisions, not as they accrue debt on a necessity that I'm perfectly capable of providing.

If it's no skin off my back, my kids will have a safe, well-built, comfortable car that I can get without hurting financially. I suppose it boils down to this: To some, 40k is a LOT, to some it's not. If you call into category B, then it's not such a stretch to get this car for a kid without spoiling them.

But that's just my opinion on that topic.

My opinion on this thread's topic in general: Age doesn't have a damned thing to do with maturity. I've met people wise beyond their years on this forum, and I've met 40 year-old dolts. Respect, as well, has nothing to do with age. It's called common courtesy. Not everyone practices it, but boy wouldn't it be nice if they did? As long as we draw lines in the sand (ie. age, coupe/sedan, paid for it/had it paid for), we'll never have respect for eachother. To constantly point out those lines and essentially b*tch at the people on the other side does nothing to further anyone's cause, either.

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I notice a lot of ppl on here brag about how they worked their asses to be where they are at. I'm sure your parents were the one to paid your way through college and raised u. Don't act like you did it on your own

 

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I would never spend over 50k for a car even if i could afford it.

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One thing I've learned is not to say "I would never..." until you have already been in the situation. That phrase has backfired on me so many times it's rediculous. Especially with kids... "I would never let my kid..." Oh the things you just don't know until you've lived them.

Example: 20 years from now with inflation a $50,000 car could be equivalent to a $20,000 car today. That means if you wanted to buy something comparable with your G you'd spend close to $100,000.

FYI, at 24 years old I made the comment that "I would never spend $50K on a vehicle". My wife and I were looking at Toyota 4 Runners and we saw a nice new Land Cruiser. Let's just say my fully loaded Limited Sequoia that I purchased 5 years later is a lovely family vehicle.

Then there was the "I'll never spend $250,000 on a house" (because I spent much less than that on the house that I currently live in)... I made that comment to my Father-in-law about 4 years ago when I found out that his oldest daughter had just spent $270,000 on a fixer-upper in CA (almost twice what I paid for my custom built house in FL). Well today, if I sold my house and bought another one just like it, I'd have to spend more than $250,000.

See where I'm going with this line of thinking? You just don't know what you just don't know...

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