Does A/T Really have more TORQUE than M/T??????
#63
#64
Just for comparisons sake, here's mine and Butkiss1's dyno. Done on the same dyno on the same day, but I (manual) don't have Motordyne ART pipes and I'm using the stock headers. Butkiss1 (auto) has Stillen headers and MD ART Pipes. Not too much of a difference to consider.
Auto
![](http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g152/jairenenguillado/Picture006.jpg?t=1287529653)
Manual
![](http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1130/4610372986_6bac50d419_z.jpg)
Auto
![](http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g152/jairenenguillado/Picture006.jpg?t=1287529653)
Manual
![](http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1130/4610372986_6bac50d419_z.jpg)
non rev up seems to have a flatter torque curve
#65
you can't take two dynos from different days and say oh I made 5 more whp then you so my car is faster, but you can get a bunch of unmodified dynos(of the same type of course) and compare them to get a general idea of what range the numbers should generally fall into. you can at least see the power curve and probably get a idea of what range the car should fall into to within 5-10whp or lb ft. Like any other statistic I would throw out the extremes too. But apparently no one dynos automatic Gs or Zs
so the auto did manage to put down a bit more torque but not really enough to write home about
non rev up seems to have a flatter torque curve
so the auto did manage to put down a bit more torque but not really enough to write home about
non rev up seems to have a flatter torque curve
As for hp, there isn't much of a difference but the auto had more mods.
The VQ needs headers to make up for some of the drop off in the high RPM's as shown in the Auto's Dyno. That is where aftermarket headers for our cars shine.
Last edited by Jairen; 10-19-2010 at 08:30 PM.
#66
#67
Do you have the data to back that up as I tried in my earlier post by posting the same dyno on the same day? I'd like to know myself.
Well, the topic is about tq.
For top end, the REVUP shines with the same mods due to it's later fuel cut which allows it to land shifts higher in the RPM range. Our sweet spot is between 4300-6000 rpm's which is where most of the shifts land.
Look at the difference in hp, in the charts I posted between 5k-6k rpm's. The non-revup shined past 6k due to it's headers and MD ART pipes vs the revups stock headers.
#69
You can't compare different dyno's on different days. It doesn't work like that. All dyno's read different.
As I did, I posted two dyno's, both done on the SAME EXACT DAY on the SAME EXACT DYNO. Not some magazine dyno compared to an intake manufacturer dyno that claimed 10 whp with their intake LOL
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Silencer even mentioned the same thing.
#71
Here's a non revup 6MT done with the exact same tuner, same dyno but different days so you can't really cmpare even though church's dyno is pretty consistent.
http://my350z.com/forum/tuning/44233...s-280-3hp.html
http://my350z.com/forum/tuning/44233...s-280-3hp.html
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#74
yeah idk...we should make a dyno database. newcelica.org has a nice one http://dyno.newcelica.org/page.php
Like I said, different dyno's on different days can't be compared. The only way a dyno database can be used is if we got a bunch of people together and did dyno's on the same day on the same dyno with similar mods.
Once again, dyno's readings differ from dyno type such as DynoJet, Dyno Dynamics, Dynapack, etc along with weather differences and dyno conditions such as fan or no fan, etc.
#75
Look at the difference in the dyno charts I posted above.
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