Brakes
Brakes
Hey Guys,
I am planning to track my car once a while...
Just wonder what kinda brake pads and brake oil suits for daily and track use.
I am pretty lazy so i am not planning to change pads and oil everytime i go tracking.
thanks guys
I am planning to track my car once a while...
Just wonder what kinda brake pads and brake oil suits for daily and track use.
I am pretty lazy so i am not planning to change pads and oil everytime i go tracking.
thanks guys
I think I can help you out. I too have an '05 coupe and I went to the track last week thursday (Buttonwillow in SoCal). If you take your coupe in stock form and go until the brakes fade miserably (as I did), you'll roll off the track with cooked rear rotors and boiled brake fluid. Surprisingly the fronts held up okay and from what I've read other people have had the same thing. Our brake bias is somewhat favoring the rear I suppose. Anyway, as for your question, I would use Motul RBF600. It's dry boiling point is 593 deg F, which is the highest of the racing brake fluids that I could find. It also happens to be the most expensive stuff at almost $15 a bottle. You can probably go with most brands, but at the track, the dry boiling point is the number to look out for. I've seen other fluids with a dry boiling point of 570 that are half the price and nearly the same performance, but it's up to you. In terms of pads, you need to keep in mind that the more track worthy the pad, the more it will wear on your rotors generally speaking. There's a lot of companies out there with good stuff: Hawk, Porterfield, Axxis, Raybestos, etc. I've been reccomended Porterfield R4s for the track as well as Hawk HP Plus. Don't forget too that full on track pads may not work well when they're cold, so on the street, you have to watch out. Hawk says that their HP Plus pads can be used to drive to the track, used on the track, then driven on back home, so it may be an option. The Hawk HPS ones are not as agressive and I know some people that use them daily on the street. The more aggressive the pad, the better heat resistance it will have, but the more dust and noise it will generate. You might want to change pads for the track. Since changing pads is not hard at all, its probably worthwhile. Fluid on the other hand is a pain in the a$$. If you go really hard on the track you should change your fluid anyway, but it won't harm anything other than your wallet to run high end fluid. To make things easier, I was told to use speed bleeders (www.speedbleeders.com) to make fluid changes easier. Since I plan on going to the track fairly often, I went ahead and ordered a BBK today. It's expensive, but it should give me a lot more laps on the track before my brakes die.
Thanks alot Hayaku.. You've been really helpful
Btw, where can u get the Hawks pad from? And r u sure they make them for our 05 coupes? cuz i went to pepboys today and they checked their stock n said they only have it for the brembos(not the 05 brakes).
Also,where can u get Motul RBF600?
Thanks man..
Btw, where can u get the Hawks pad from? And r u sure they make them for our 05 coupes? cuz i went to pepboys today and they checked their stock n said they only have it for the brembos(not the 05 brakes).
Also,where can u get Motul RBF600?
Thanks man..
Last edited by jaslui119; Oct 19, 2005 at 12:45 AM.
I got away with my stock Brembo pads at Sebring recently but I was being very easy in the braking zones. Still had a ton of fun though. Definitely want to change the brake fluid at least and take some extra pads with you.
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Well, I'm not sure if I'm stepping on any toes or anything, but I ordered my Stoptech Brake kit from http://www.czp.us/. For the sake of the site sponsors, I won't list prices, you can check the site out for yourself. Talk to Coz, I know he sells Motul and should be able to help you with your pads. You might also just want to call up Hawk or one of the brake pad manufactureres yourself and ask them what kind of pad you will need. I'm sure they will have some info for you. http://www.performancenissanparts.com/ might be good too. I talked to some guys there that were helpful. Since you're in NorCal, I belive there's a shop up there called Z Car Garage. Try searching the forums, but they specialize in 350Zs so they also might know what you'll need. More than anything else though, our brakes are the least suitible parts of the car for the track. Think about a Big Brake kit down the line. Your pads should last longer with a better kit and you'll get much less fade (from what I hear/read, I'll let you know myself once my kit comes in and I get it installed).
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slotted rotors, s/s brake lines, high boiling point brake fluid, metallic pads, and ghetto fab cooling ducts will work wonders if you're on a budget. It also helps to lessen the weight of the car so that the brakes dont have to work so hard.
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Hawk HP+ are not exactly track pads. They tout that pad for auto-crossing. If you want a truly track worthy pad, go with the Hawk Blue's. They are phenominal at stopping power.
I too have an 05' and am instructing up at Infineon on Nov 5-6. I am thinking of changing the pads, as my brakes faded at Buttonwillow about 6 months ago over the course of a session or two.
I too have an 05' and am instructing up at Infineon on Nov 5-6. I am thinking of changing the pads, as my brakes faded at Buttonwillow about 6 months ago over the course of a session or two.
If the Hawk HP+ pads chews up rotors, I can't imagine how tough the blues will be. I'm not sure if it's worth it to go with a true track pad if you're rotors are torn up afterwards....assuming you care about them that is.
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I agree, HP+ arent that great of compound. Blues and Blacks are great for trackday. HP+ are adequate enough for both street and track, and for people like me who're lazy to change out the rotors and pads. :P (guilty)
One of these day's I'll upgrade to larger rotors and a better caliper. for now, and the track i visit, the stock brembo brakes are efficient enough.
One of these day's I'll upgrade to larger rotors and a better caliper. for now, and the track i visit, the stock brembo brakes are efficient enough.
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