I've already removed it once. A little goo gone and she's good to go

 

For those who are just running springs, what shocks do you guys use? If I'm not mistaken nobody makes shocks for us X's except KYB and OEM? and KYB isn't really aftermarket because their basically the same as the OEM ones. I've done some searching but just can't find anything other then KYB...

My shocks crapped out on me as I am running Unrevised 350z springs all around and I hate how nothing is available to our cars. I am to the point of either getting OEM shocks and let it crap out again or go with BC racing coilovers but that is an investment I must wait for rather then just replace the shocks.

 

I just went through this with my 2006 X . . . there are really no shocks for the front other than the oem replacements (KYB) so you would either have to get some custom modifications on premium shocks or go with the BC COs. Once you start factoring price for customizing some aftermarket shocks and possibly needing to replace shock mounts/boots/etc. I think I probably saved money by going with the BC COs. Plus, if you DIY as I did it's a lot easier to just take out the whole strut and replace with the CO (no spring compressor needed).

 

Tried posting in the suspension forums with no luck...

Looking to drop my '05 X and there's a guy local to me that's selling some Espelir springs off his sedan. No luck searching online, anyone have any experience with these?

If it helps, they're a baby blue colour.

 

I have seen that ad on kijijij Montreal. Thoes springs are super rare. They are the only drop springs made for the X. As far as I know Espelir is a good company. I would go for it if you like that much drop.

 

I'm just trying to figure out exactly how much drop it is. I've been communicating with the guy and he has no idea because they're off his uncle's G35.

I just want to know if I'll be able to run these on my stock struts and if I'll need a camber kit.

Thanks

 

I just ordered sedan H&R sport springs for my 04X. Should I expect any problems with alingment ? It has Z springs in the rear now and it wears more on the very edges of the inside of the rear tires. Should that still be the case with H&R's ? what is the kit to correct that just in case ?

any suggestions for shocks and struts with those springs ?

X's lower .5in lower than sedan RWD with the same springs right ?

 

X's lower .5" farther from their oem height yes, but they end up being whatever height a rwd G35 would be when lowered. Keep in mind of the extra camber gain we get from that extra half inch. FWIW I hear nothing but good things about the H&Rs springs.

 

Pictures of thoes Espelir springs on the car make it look low enough to need a camber kit. I think anything lower then an inch will probabaly need a kit. The car looks at least 1.5 to 2 inches to me.

 

the camber kit normally needed only for the rear ?

 

I'm no expert but have recently done a lot of this stuff to my 06X, and have read a lot of forum posts about it. The need for extra camber front/rear depends on if you need it to get it aligned. That depends on a lot of things but mostly how much drop you have. That's where opinions start to come in. Some people say over 1" some say 1.5", some say over 1.75", etc. from stock you will most likely need it. Oh, and almost every comment is about a coupe (and once in a while a RWD sedan).

For the rear, you get some adjust-ability with simply getting the toe bolt kit. If you can't get enough from that you would get the adjustable arms (which come with the toe bolts as well).

For the front-if it can get within alignment specs obviously you're ok if not then you need to put in the spc adjustable a-arms. If it still can't get within specs you have to put in the shim kit (comes with the control arms). It's not like the car will drive totally crazy or anything (you might not even notice it), so it's not something you need to do right away, but if you are very out of spec you will wear your tires much more quickly.

If you don't want to get multiple alignments then I suggest getting the full kits both front and rear, do it all at once (or over a couple weekends in a row), and get an alignment and be done with it (that's what I am doing-although I haven't gotten to the alignment as yet-still need to put in the rear camber arms). Using some nearly-bald tires at the end of their lifespan takes out the worry about excessive wear as well.

 

with my rear Z springs in the rear it's already wearing out the very edge shoulder of the insides of my rear tires. I'm wondering if the H&R springs will be a tad higher up and allow the caster to be aligned to factory spec. If not a toe kit wont help that problem right ? I'd need adjustible arms or do you have to do toe bolts with the adjustible arms anyway ?

 

I'm not entirely sure if you can affect caster/how it is adjusted with these kits (I'm going to take it to a professional for alignment), but from what I understand the only real difference between the toe bolt kit and the rear arms + bolt kit is that you get a wider range of adjust-ability for camber and toe with the adjustable arms + bolts vs bolts alone. I'm not sure you would really have to do the bolts with the adjustable arms, but in terms of adjust-ability I don't know if you would get the same amount with just the arms and not the bolts as well. Plus the bolts come with the arms and although of course they go in a separate part of the control arm you're already under the car and it takes only another couple bolt removals/some work with the dremel to do that as well..

The way I look at it, if it is pretty easy to do an optional thing like the bolts, I will do it just to have the adjust-ability if it is needed. If it is a PIA with speed sensor potentially getting screwed up, etc. to do an optional things like the shim kit for the front arms, I won't do it unless I have to.

The install video at spc's website is a great help in visualizing it before you actually get under the car.

 

you speak of rear caster adjustment? There is no such thing for our cars.

Rear inside edge of your tires are mainly camber issues. To fix you need a camber arm for the rear. But TOE is key to saving your tires. Both are cheap and easy to install, fine tune adjustments is not recommended for beginners. Hell there are only so many people who can do their own alignments w/o a machine. So its not exactly a DIY alignment. Installing it however is cake walk. I suggest you get them in conjunction with lowering.

 

sorry I meant camber. I think I'll get the new springs in and have the alignment checked and decide if it can be aligned with in OEM spec. If not I'll put on the adjustible arms, and toe bolt kit.

Does the front typically have more factory camber adjustment ? Just curious as to the liklihood I'll need adjustible front a arms ?

Here are my current alignment specs can someone tell me what's up with my car now ? I just had this done and the car drives nice and straight but is noisy and is wearing the insides of the rear tires even though the alignment straightened the rear tires more upright. I know I have a bad compression rod busing in the front right that will be replaced once the ES bushing arrives in the mail...

LF camber -.089 caster 7.38 Toe .02
RF camber -1.45 caster 6.46 Toe .01
Cross Camber .56
Cross caster .92
Total Toe .02

LR camber -1.63 toe .14
RR camber -1.85 toe .13
Total Rear toe .26
thrust angle .01