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Old Nov 6, 2012 | 02:13 PM
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Nevermind, I reviewed it now.

So Im guessing, in the stock setup that 6 is a 12V source, and in DRL mode, 8 is hooked up to 7? Then when switched to high beam, 7 is grounded and 8 is hooked up to 12V?

Correct me if Im wrong
 
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Old Nov 6, 2012 | 02:46 PM
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I read the FSM some, it says 6 and 8 are always battery voltage and 7 is always approx. 0 v.

If this was the case, the High beam connected to 6 would always be on full power :S
 
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Old Nov 6, 2012 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by DVG
Yeah, I would actually want the DRLs all the time idealy, so my plan before was just to wire it to something like the cig lighter.
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So Im guessing, in the stock setup that 6 is a 12V source, and in DRL mode, 8 is hooked up to 7? Then when switched to high beam, 7 is grounded and 8 is hooked up to 12V?

Correct me if Im wrong
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I read the FSM some, it says 6 and 8 are always battery voltage and 7 is always approx. 0 v.
If this was the case, the High beam connected to 6 would always be on full power :S
1. If you want them to be switched on/off whenever you want, your best bet is to hook up an Auxillary switch. this can be done a ton of ways, grab IGN switch power from somewhere like the DRL imput, and run the trigger from in-cabin. You will still have to cut in to the High beam wire, but not the ground side. This will make it illegal though, if anyone checks, because the DRL's won't come on automatically when wired this way.

2. & 3. Not from what I see, #6 Turns on 12V+ when
A) high beam is on
B) drl is on

A) When high beam is on, Terminal #7 (Ground) is a Chassis ground
B) When DRL is on, Terminal #7 loops around, out through #8, and then finally through the LEFT high beam and to the LEFT high beam CHASSIS ground.
It's this action that forces the Power to be split between the two High beams during DRL operation, because it changes the circuit to a SERIES circuit (in-line)

Does that help explain it?
 
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Old Nov 6, 2012 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by TunerMax
1. If you want them to be switched on/off whenever you want, your best bet is to hook up an Auxillary switch. this can be done a ton of ways, grab IGN switch power from somewhere like the DRL imput, and run the trigger from in-cabin. You will still have to cut in to the High beam wire, but not the ground side. This will make it illegal though, if anyone checks, because the DRL's won't come on automatically when wired this way.

2. & 3. Not from what I see, #6 Turns on 12V+ when
A) high beam is on
B) drl is on

A) When high beam is on, Terminal #7 (Ground) is a Chassis ground
B) When DRL is on, Terminal #7 loops around, out through #8, and then finally through the LEFT high beam and to the LEFT high beam CHASSIS ground.
It's this action that forces the Power to be split between the two High beams during DRL operation, because it changes the circuit to a SERIES circuit (in-line)

Does that help explain it?
I would probably just run a relay to a switch in the cabin which is hooked up to the cig lighter. The light would be nice at night because it will actually throw an extra 600 lumens.

Do we have different FSMs or am I interpreting it wrong?

The way you described it is how I initially assumed the terminals would work, as I queried above,but when I looked it up in my FSM I saw this.



I can always check with a multi meter though.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2012 | 03:48 PM
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You're just reading it wrong, those terminal voltage charts can be confusing, the conditions in which there is BATTERY VOLTAGE are listed in the center column.

If you want to see when it's on/off you read power-flow description. I can pretty much assure you that the way I described is how it works without even reading the description though.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2012 | 03:56 PM
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Cool, I just read somewhere that it expect continuity between 7 and 8 when DRL is in effect.

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Old Nov 6, 2012 | 04:26 PM
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that's right there WOULD be continuity between 7 & 8 when DRL is ON.
This is because instead of being a normal ground, 7 is hooked to 8 while DRL's are on. This is the "loop" I was talking about that creates the series circuit.

When the DRL's are off, terminal 7 has continuity to Ground, but NOT to 8, which allows the high beams to run full voltage when they're turned on.

This 'loop' at terminal 7 will be bypassed, 7 is left disconnected once you follow my diagram.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2012 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by TunerMax
that's right there WOULD be continuity between 7 & 8 when DRL is ON.
This is because instead of being a normal ground, 7 is hooked to 8 while DRL's are on. This is the "loop" I was talking about that creates the series circuit.

When the DRL's are off, terminal 7 has continuity to Ground, but NOT to 8, which allows the high beams to run full voltage when they're turned on.
Thats what I figured after your first post
 
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Old Nov 6, 2012 | 04:44 PM
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Oh, and if you do check the Voltage with a multimeter at terminal #7 while the DRL's are on and everything is connected, it should actually show about half voltage (around 6.5-7 Volts), if you do measure it, don't be alarmed by this, this is normal.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2012 | 04:47 PM
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With it unplugged, shouldnt I see a full 12 V since it has no connection to ground?

Also, I was just planning to check impedance to see where connections are made for sure
 
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Old Nov 6, 2012 | 05:55 PM
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will the 03-06 sedan side view mirrors fit the 07-08 sedans?
 
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Old Nov 6, 2012 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by DVG
With it unplugged, shouldnt I see a full 12 V since it has no connection to ground?

Also, I was just planning to check impedance to see where connections are made for sure
Terminal #7 will never have power except when DRL's are running, and it's plugged in.
At this time power will flow through that terminal. What you'd be measuring at terminal #7 at this time would actually be like measuring voltage drop, which is why you see half voltage, because the power has already flowed through one of the High beam Bulbs, sending the rest of the voltage through the DRL module, out terminal #8, and through the Left High beam bulb, and finally to chassis ground over at the left Headlight ground.

Terminal #6 will never have power with it unplugged unless you turn on the High Beams, then you'll have battery voltage at that wire.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2012 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MPG35fiend
will the 03-06 sedan side view mirrors fit the 07-08 sedans?
I've never tried to change them, but I've seen both and can say pretty darn sure they won't fit, no.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2012 | 07:16 PM
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I've never tried to change them, but I've seen both and can say pretty darn sure they won't fit, no.
is the wiring harness the same?
 
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Old Nov 6, 2012 | 09:23 PM
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