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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 07:13 PM
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freeway speeds, no. 100mph+ possibly, but not enough to make a difference... but it wont create up-force from the angle being up (when air passes over top it creates down-force)... the only issue "might" be the gap under the spoiler which "might" have an affect - but because of that gap, there is no drag (which is probably why it was designed that way in the first place).

BTW, you've been a member since 2005 and only have 19 posts?
No matter the shape of the airfoil, the angle of attack will influence the degree of lift you get/don't get. So if it had 0 lift before, it will have more lift if you have it at a lower angle. If you insist on bernoulli's principle, now that the air is being deflected downwards instead of upwards, the high speed low pressure area will now be on the top of the airfoil instead of the bottom, generating upwards lift instead of downwards. Again, how significant, I don't know, but it is possible it is significant (audi tt anyone?)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lift_(force)

Yeah, call me lurker king. I'm more of a function >> form guy, so not much for me to discuss on these forums.
 

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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by totopo
No matter the shape of the airfoil, the angle of attack will influence the degree of lift you get/don't get. So if it had 0 lift before, it will have more lift if you have it at a lower angle. If you insist on bernoulli's principle, now that the air is being deflected downwards instead of upwards, the high speed low pressure area will now be on the bottom of the airfoil instead of the top, generating upwards lift instead of downwards. Again, how significant, I don't know, but it is possible it is significant (audi tt anyone?)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lift_(force)

Yeah, call me lurker king. I'm more of a function >> form guy, so not much for me to discuss on these forums.
there's plenty of Function >/= Form guys here
 
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 09:43 PM
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^what I was thinking too LOL.


Ok, so buddy at Strafe tells me that the "K2" trunk is NOT a copy of the Hikkatadori trunk. He's also very firm in backing the product for not being thin, cheap, and also saying it has great fitment.

Dustin deals with these things mainly so I'm anxiously waiting to talk to him when he returns, I guess he's off for another day or so. I need some clarification, seems I'm not the only one either.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by totopo
No matter the shape of the airfoil, the angle of attack will influence the degree of lift you get/don't get. So if it had 0 lift before, it will have more lift if you have it at a lower angle. If you insist on bernoulli's principle, now that the air is being deflected downwards instead of upwards, the high speed low pressure area will now be on the top of the airfoil instead of the bottom, generating upwards lift instead of downwards. Again, how significant, I don't know, but it is possible it is significant (audi tt anyone?)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lift_(force)

Yeah, call me lurker king. I'm more of a function >> form guy, so not much for me to discuss on these forums.
the post I responded to indicated uplift from the angle being up. which is not the case. I'm not sure where your reference of lower angle came from... and I was under the impression he was referring to the actual angle of the spoiler (not how much lower it sits)...

However, as I stated, the change in the space under the "airfoil" as you call it (be lets face it, that's not what its designed to be), may affect lift (but again, that's not the angle, it's a completely different principal.

All in all, it's not going to affect the car that is being modded (street, not track car).

BTW, there are many of us that mod aesthetically and performance based - all with function in mind... I'm curious to know what you've done.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by TunerMax
^what I was thinking too LOL.


Ok, so buddy at Strafe tells me that the "K2" trunk is NOT a copy of the Hikkatadori trunk. He's also very firm in backing the product for not being thin, cheap, and also saying it has great fitment.

Dustin deals with these things mainly so I'm anxiously waiting to talk to him when he returns, I guess he's off for another day or so. I need some clarification, seems I'm not the only one either.
O RLY?

because that picture that is water marked with Strafe is my car and that is the HD trunk...
 
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 11:55 PM
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O RLY?

because that picture that is water marked with Strafe is my car and that is the HD trunk...
Thanks for verifying this. I wasn't going to post it here until i knew for sure, but that's EXACTLY what I sent to 'law' over at Strafe. I was like 99% sure that was the situation. Are you able to shed any more insight? Either here or PM?

Want to know what the heck I'm getting, and where to go with this, before I do a REAL custom spoiler lol.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 12:09 AM
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Thanks for verifying this. I wasn't going to post it here until i knew for sure, but that's EXACTLY what I sent to 'law' over at Strafe. I was like 99% sure that was the situation. Are you able to shed any more insight? Either here or PM?

Want to know what the heck I'm getting, and where to go with this, before I do a REAL custom spoiler lol.
oh i dont mind posting here so others can see

So he is claiming that the trunk on my car this new K2 thats better quality and fits better?
 
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 12:46 AM
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So i went to the Strafe website and they have a picture of my car with the Hikkadori (spelling?) trunk but they are calling it the K2 Fiberglass

OP do you have the PM's where Starfe is claiming the quality and fitment?

Thanks,
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btw ill have Strafe remove the picture
 
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Beebo
oh i dont mind posting here so others can see

So he is claiming that the trunk on my car this new K2 thats better quality and fits better?
This will be easier, and I'm all for informed/public info, and this apparently needs to get figured out:

EDITED OUT AT STRAFE's REQUEST


To be fair to "Law", he does mention this is not his primary focus in the company, so I'd assume, and would think we'll soon hear confirmation, that he's misinformed about the Hikkatadori trunk and the "K2" trunk not being the same item. Though, I'd actually be happy if it wasn't, personally I love EVERYTHING about the HD trunk more except the "Nagare" (Japanese for "flow") design, (Mazda's newish adaptation).

By this is point to the sharp, almost pointed swoop in the center of the lip, only visible really from the top (standing next to car viewing spoiler). This specific 'indentation' doesn't flow well with the car IMO, and also, the flow back into the tailight line is a little off on the HD lip.

All that aside (I'm incredibly picky if you didnt get that impression yet ), it's a close call between the HD style and the V2 style. So I need more info.
 

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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 12:53 AM
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Lets wait for Dustin's reply, i just do not someone to get a trunk like mine and think the quality is good. i still plan on having strafe remove my picture since that is not a picture of this said K2.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Beebo
That is the same as the Strafe K2, stay away... quality sucks
Beebo I think I'm reading this as a good post.


Actually the Strafe trunk and the HD trunks are 2 different trunks. Strafe trunks are our option to sedan market. We actually have a few different trunks on sale for the sedan. We have watermarked pictures with the HD trunk and Our trunk. We have sold HD trunks as well as Ours. Our trunks are not made the same as the HD trunks. Ours are heavier and solid. I think our fitment is closer and there isn't a lot of prep work needed.

HD trunks are made locally for ITZ. Strafe trunks are made overseas for Us by VIS.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 12:59 AM
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Beebo I think I'm reading this as a good post.


Actually the Strafe trunk and the HD trunks are 2 different trunks. Strafe trunks are our option to sedan market. We actually have a few different trunks on sale for the sedan. We have watermarked pictures with the HD trunk and Our trunk. We have sold HD trunks as well as Ours. Our trunks are not made the same as the HD trunks. Ours are heavier and solid. I think our fitment is closer and there isn't a lot of prep work needed.

HD trunks are made locally for ITZ. Strafe trunks are made overseas for Us by VIS.
The picture you have on your site of the K2, is the HD trunk thats on my car.

i'm just confused why you changed the name? or did you make a copy of the HD trunk and are now selling it as K2?
 
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Beebo
O RLY?

because that picture that is water marked with Strafe is my car and that is the HD trunk...
We sell both HD and Our trunks. What is the confusion. We watermarked it with permission from the former owner of your car to show we sold these trunks.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 01:01 AM
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OP why would you post my PM's? That wasn't cool...
 
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 01:04 AM
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We sell both HD and Our trunks. What is the confusion. We watermarked it with permission from the former owner of your car to show we sold these trunks.
Plus as most know I have been working on our website and things seem a bit mixed up still..I have asked our customers to cut me a bit of slack here until I can get it up and running. This is all new to me. I'm not a website guy..Everyday I learn more and more about this stuff. I have also been running Strafe for about a week now with Dustin being around here and there. He is trying to take care of some personal things...

Really Beebo we got permission before you owned the car.


Plus the OP never showed me a Picture and asked about our K2 so i assumed it was Our trunk and not the HD..
 
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