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Old 05-20-2005, 04:11 PM
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MT mag. tested the 2005 G35 Sedan 6MT and got 14.1 @ 99.7 mph. That four or five tenths better that than previous model. With some practice and a great launch, this car can run high 13’s. Not too bad for a family sports sedan priced in the low $30K’s.
 
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Those are stout times. Good for a family sedan.
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"previous model" = 260 hp variety?
 
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Originally Posted by 4DOORFUN
MT mag. tested the 2005 G35 Sedan 6MT and got 14.1 @ 99.7 mph. That four or five tenths better that than previous model. With some practice and a great launch, this car can run high 13’s. Not too bad for a family sports sedan priced in the low $30K’s.

I've seen car mags test the "previous model" at comparable times, with trap speeds of 100 flat or slightly above.
 
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The .4 to .5 of a second you're quoting is for the 03 automatic, not 6 speed. Motor Trend tested the 03 6MT sedan to a 14.3@100.5mph or .2 slower and nearly 1mph faster than the 05. The faster trap speed of the 03 suggests more power, but a slower start. I think it's a complete wash between the 03/04s 260hp (closer to 280hp in actualty) and the 05 in terms of straight line acceleration. The 03/04 has more midrange power and the 05 has more higher rpm power. In the 1/4 mile it's a wash.

BTW, there are already 03/04 6MT sedans that have broken into the 13s stock
 
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The .4 to .5 of a second you're quoting is for the 03 automatic, not 6 speed. Motor Trend tested the 03 6MT sedan to a 14.3@100.5mph or .2 slower and nearly 1mph faster than the 05. The faster trap speed of the 03 suggests more power, but a slower start. I think it's a complete wash between the 03/04s 260hp (closer to 280hp in actualty) and the 05 in terms of straight line acceleration. The 03/04 has more midrange power and the 05 has more higher rpm power. In the 1/4 mile it's a wash.

BTW, there are already 03/04 6MT sedans that have broken into the 13s stock
What he said.
 
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C'mon guys...who really cares about a " .4 or .5 second" difference? You guys really plan on drag-racing a G35? This car is made for either high-speed, freeway flying...or blasting through some twisty mountain roads.

Drag-racing is for either old-school hot-rodders or new-school FWD Civics & Integras.

Going straight ain't no fun...lets go 'round some corners! ^-^

Aren't you glad you bought a G35? I am!!!

Anyone in Southern CA wanna do some driving together? Any good roads you'd like to introduce to me? Preferrably ones that aren't too heavy policed? Hehehe...
 
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Originally Posted by Gthree5 6MT
C'mon guys...who really cares about a " .4 or .5 second" difference? You guys really plan on drag-racing a G35? This car is made for either high-speed, freeway flying...or blasting through some twisty mountain roads.

Drag-racing is for either old-school hot-rodders or new-school FWD Civics & Integras.

Going straight ain't no fun...lets go 'round some corners!
I care very much about .4-.5 of a second. That's about 30-40hp. And yes, I do drag race my G35. It's a blast and I find drag racing just as fun as auto-X I absolutely love acceleration Gs.

Aren't you glad you bought a G35? I am!!!
Hell ya!
 
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The ¼ mi. test is a great test. The ¼ mi test captures the car’s power, weight, gearing, traction, etc. Shorter test like 0-60 mph, don’t capture the entire picture.

.4 seconds is a lot when it comes to the ¼ mi.

I have yet to see a G35 6MT sedan run 14.1 or better in person and I spend a fair amount of time at the track with my Mustang. In fact, the real world numbers I typically witness are not even close to the magazine articles. They are usually higher in the real world because of lack of driver ability and skill.

Trap speeds don’t always tell the entire story. You can lower your ¼ time without improvement in your trap speed. When I switched to a sticky tire and 4.10 rear end gears in my Mustang, my 60 ft. time dropped a few tenths and so did my ¼ mi time. However, my trap speeds where about the same or lower.
 
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Originally Posted by 4DOORFUN
I have yet to see a G35 6MT sedan run 14.1 or better in person and I spend a fair amount of time at the track with my Mustang. In fact, the real world numbers I typically witness are not even close to the magazine articles. They are usually higher in the real world because of lack of driver ability and skill.
I agree. The quickest G sedan 6MT at my track (Kansas City International Raceway) has gone a 14.4@96mph with a 2.1 60'. All of the 350Zs I've watched and raced are running 14.2-14.4@98mph. Does that mean my track is slow? Maybe, but wouldn't that mean my G auto would be quicker at another track. It seems like most cars at my track run anywhere from .2-.4 seconds and 2mph slower than what you read about in the mags. This goes for any car including LS1 F-bodies, 99+ Stangs, Z06s, Vipers, Type Rs, 350z, you name it. Maybe it's our 1100' elevation. As for mag times, don't forget that nearly all of them correct their times to sea level, 60 degrees, and 0% humidity and that thier trap speeds aren't averaged for the last 66' like they are on a real track. That can account for slightly higher traps that what you'll see at the track.

Trap speeds don’t always tell the entire story. You can lower your ¼ time without improvement in your trap speed. When I switched to a sticky tire and 4.10 rear end gears in my Mustang, my 60 ft. time dropped a few tenths and so did my ¼ mi time. However, my trap speeds where about the same or lower.
Trap speed typically changes very little (maybe 1-1.5mph) when adding sticky tires and gears assuming you don't under/overgear the car. My point about trap speed was that the 298hp 05 6MT with 26" tall street tires and a 3.5 gear was actually 1.5mph slower in trap compared wit hthe 03 6MT with the same gear and tire height. That 1.5mph difference suggests that the 298hp is making less overall power (a less useable powerband) than the old engine. According to the ETs though, the 05 gets there .2 quicker. In the end, I think these two cars on the same track are going to post damn near the same numbers.
 
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Old 05-25-2005, 12:24 PM
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You're right, the magazines always present corrected resutls. I think most readers don't realize that.

Elevation can make a big difference, but 1100' feet isn't too bad. The density altitude is the whole picture.

You can look up the elevation of most tracks here:

http://www.racefan.com/racetracks.asp

You can look up historical weather data here:

http://wwwa.accuweather.com/index.asp?partner=accuweather

You can get corrected ET numbers here with the data above and your timeslips:

http://www.modulardepot.com/density.php

I agree at the end of the day, the '05 G and the prior G35's are not going to be much different. The 298 hp is peak power and comes at extremely high rpms. It's more of a marketing push for high hp Infiniti cars than anything else. I'd be more intested in comparing SAE corrected dyno curves of the '05 and '04 G35's.
 
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14.1 at 98mph is a solid time ... that's plenty quick to brag about - especially at stock. As an 05 owner, I agree that any race would would be a wash against an 03-04. It'd be all about the driver, or mods, and maybe even tire size to a small degree as well
 
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