Why not address the facts he put in his 1st post about the correction factors?

Questioning validity of information aren't precursors to bets. In order for you logic to have any legitimacy, one would have to BEGIN the conversation with the understanding of a bet.

 

Because I don't want to drive 1500 miles to settle a debate about cars of all things? It's not nonsense as you say, it's called having a life. You're the one that takes this stuff way to seriously. When I back you into a corner, your infamous response is "race for pink slips", "meet me at so and so to race", etc. Now that's nonsense.


I have no doubt the JWT/Stillen CAI flows better than OEM, but who cares when OEM airbox already greatly outflows the capabilities of the VQ35DE, even your heavily modded VQ35DE. That was my point.

Here's a link to that test among 12 highly modified VQ35 350Zs/G35s. Take note of their power levels (350hp) and how many of the faster ones are running OEM airboxes. http://www.jdm-option.com/eng/featur...2/z33_v35.html

Finally, here's Q45tech's discussion of airbox design and restriction of the intake tract. I suggest reading it in great detail before replying back. https://g35driver.com/forums/intake-...strictive.html

 

If you had a clue you would know that the recent discussion is specific to post 238-241 (until the peanut gallery took it OT)… read it a learn something Jeff.

 

I never said anything about racing for pink slips in this thread… Everything was regarding dyno jet pulls (since you are so completely clueless about my car).

Read posts 254-258 to get a clue about relevance in this thread… pay close attention to this post:
You guys drive nearly stock cars, have no dyno numbers, minimal track records and no fellow members that car vouch for your cars ability… yet you continue to spew bad info to G35Driver members… then you get all bent out of shape and flustered (trying to divert the current subject with past and/or inaccurate info).

And your sole supporter thinks heat soak from an intake affects the moving air at avg speeds and therefore affects avg mpg… what a bunch of brilliant folks here.

I feel sorry for the noobies you prey upon – they wont know better until they can crushed at the track and wonder why they are so damn slow.

 

so... i jsut bought the stillen, now you guys can u stop arguing lol. its blowing up my email. rofl

 

So again, how about discussing Dave's points on the dyno correction vs flaming the guy? Ifyou did that, most of the flames never would have appeared. I suppose some type of congraduations are in order for your success of dumping on Dave's thread about dyno numbers, how slow everyone else is to you and some ridiculous race for money bet.

 

all but one of those are 350Zs genious. I only wish we had the same intake as they do... we do not - so again, your point is not relevant.
everything in his post pertains to stock cams, stock exhaust, stock plenum... again not relevant to this discussion.

NEXT.

 

I didn’t flame him... he flamed me... implying I was fabricating dyno numbers and making false statements about Church dynapack as it relates to dyno jet... I simply corrected him.

How mentally incapacitated are you Jeff? Where in this thread did I make a race for money bet? Just link the post don’t quote out of context as usual.

You guys can’t stand the fact that someone with mods that work (proven at the track and on the dyno) corrects the inaccuracies.

Don’t forget, this recent debate started by me correcting the sweeping general statements that Stillen will likely lower mpg and that the OEM air box gives better gains. I’m here to tell you first hand neither is the case on my car. Why is that so hard for you to accept? I don’t expect your cars to react the same – you are practically stock. Just stay OEM and you’ll be better off.

 

you're gonna make them cry. They hate it when someone does something they dont think is the best (using OEM parts)

 

No, he questioned you with an opinion and his knowlege of correction factors. Then made his own conclusion to the results. You on the other hand, has continually flamed and insulted no less than 2-3 here in this one thread. You took it here.

 

put up or shut up I always say.

 

I never said that an intake would effect mpg. You must be confusing me with someone else. However, aftermarket intakes could potentially influence mpg if exposed to excessive air temps. What would happen is the IAT would see high air temps which then the ECU retards timing and richens the A/F ratio to keep the motor from detonating. Dumping lots of fueling in the combustion chamber is the quickest way to cool the combustion chamber. the ECU may also adjust throttle position (regardless of driver input) if it thinks detonation is or may occur.

I guess that's for the noobies to decide and who they'll trust. I get lots of PMs from people asking for my help. Too bad for them I guess.

As for them being damn slow, again, will they listen to the guy that did a 14.46@98mph in 1800' DA conditions with a Z-tube or the guy that ran a 14.15@101mph in 1800' DA conditions with basically every bolt-on including cams and gears

 

Yes, most of those cars were 350Zs. However, the air source is the same for both the G and Z. Yes, the Z's intake source is a bit and more forward, but that's because the car has no grill. It's source in the nose opening. The intake opening of the Z is designed to increase induction noise and sportiness. Additionally, I guess you've never realized that the G airbox includes two intakes vs the Z's single large opening and that combined, the G's intakes cover a much larger area. It's not choking for air in the least.

 

I never said you did.
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Two totally different tracks - regardless of DA unjustments its still comparing apples to oranges.

14.15 wasnt with cams... 14.002 was... and that was on one of the slowest tracks in the country... easily 13s all day long on a decent track (and on your track)...

And I dont care whether they listen to me or not... but I'll make sure I continue to correct the wrong info that gets posted by you and others.

 

Z draws fresh/cold air much closer to the source. Thats the biggest advantage.

What works on your practically stock car is fine... but I will remind you again I stated that Buckeye was inaccurate with his post stating mpg is lower on Stillen and the blanket statement that OEM is a better air box... it inst the case on my car.

you and Jeff brought up all the other garbage.