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#2746
01-15-2012, 12:04 PM
Registered User
Looking to make all tires flush
Roll Fenders?
Camber Kit?
Spacers?
Last edited by Carrottop401; 01-15-2012 at 02:30 PM.
#2747
01-16-2012, 12:53 PM
Car is an 06 sedan and slammed on GR+ coils. Rears fenders are rolled pretty flat. Fronts are stock but can get rolled if needed. Just installed a rear camber kit and toe bols as well so I have some adjustability.
Wheel specs are weak: Front 19 x 8.5 +38, Rear 19 x 9.5 +42.
Tire specs are: new 235/35/19 for the fronts. 275/30/19 on the rears but they need replaced (!).
I would like be more flush. Should I get something not so wide for the rears, maybe 265/35 or 255/35 and add spacers? Or stick with 275/30/19.. or something else? I also know I need spacers for the fronts, should I go with the safe bet15mm or will 20mm fit?
Pics for reference:
Side profile.
A few rear pics on page 4.
Front sunkness.
Wheel specs are weak: Front 19 x 8.5 +38, Rear 19 x 9.5 +42.
Tire specs are: new 235/35/19 for the fronts. 275/30/19 on the rears but they need replaced (!).
I would like be more flush. Should I get something not so wide for the rears, maybe 265/35 or 255/35 and add spacers? Or stick with 275/30/19.. or something else? I also know I need spacers for the fronts, should I go with the safe bet15mm or will 20mm fit?
Pics for reference:
Side profile.
A few rear pics on page 4.
Front sunkness.
#2748
01-16-2012, 06:32 PM
Use a tire calculator for the overall dimensions of the tire.
Car is an 06 sedan and slammed on GR+ coils. Rears fenders are rolled pretty flat. Fronts are stock but can get rolled if needed. Just installed a rear camber kit and toe bols as well so I have some adjustability.
Wheel specs are weak: Front 19 x 8.5 +38, Rear 19 x 9.5 +42.
Tire specs are: new 235/35/19 for the fronts. 275/30/19 on the rears but they need replaced (!).
I would like be more flush. Should I get something not so wide for the rears, maybe 265/35 or 255/35 and add spacers? Or stick with 275/30/19.. or something else? I also know I need spacers for the fronts, should I go with the safe bet15mm or will 20mm fit?
Pics for reference:
Side profile.
A few rear pics on page 4.
Front sunkness.
Wheel specs are weak: Front 19 x 8.5 +38, Rear 19 x 9.5 +42.
Tire specs are: new 235/35/19 for the fronts. 275/30/19 on the rears but they need replaced (!).
I would like be more flush. Should I get something not so wide for the rears, maybe 265/35 or 255/35 and add spacers? Or stick with 275/30/19.. or something else? I also know I need spacers for the fronts, should I go with the safe bet15mm or will 20mm fit?
Pics for reference:
Side profile.
A few rear pics on page 4.
Front sunkness.
The fronts, you're going to have plenty of room. Marcus' old set up was 8.5 0? I think and still ran a 225/35 on it. So you can stick whatever spacer you want on there and you're probably still going to clear without fenders mods.
If you plan to keep a hint of camber in the back, get that rear offset down to at least +25 and I think you'll be in good shape.
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#2750
01-17-2012, 12:19 AM
^ you should actually be fine in that case. I would recommend rolling the rear fenders but it might not ending up being 100% necessary. I still recommend rolling them either way. if you want to get a little flusher after you get them on you can probably handle some 10mms front and rear and still be ok. Really depends how the car cambers upon lowering it.
Camber is really your call, with a 1.5" drop you'll pull a maximum of -2 degrees of camber which really isn't bad. Rear camber arms are about $200 so your call. I definitely recommend toe bolts though.
Camber is really your call, with a 1.5" drop you'll pull a maximum of -2 degrees of camber which really isn't bad. Rear camber arms are about $200 so your call. I definitely recommend toe bolts though.
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#2751
01-17-2012, 10:46 AM
Originally Posted by 4DGS
Running the slimmer tire out back will definitely allow some room to play. 255/35 is a good option.
The fronts, you're going to have plenty of room. Marcus' old set up was 8.5 0? I think and still ran a 225/35 on it. So you can stick whatever spacer you want on there and you're probably still going to clear without fenders mods.
If you plan to keep a hint of camber in the back, get that rear offset down to at least +25 and I think you'll be in good shape.
The fronts, you're going to have plenty of room. Marcus' old set up was 8.5 0? I think and still ran a 225/35 on it. So you can stick whatever spacer you want on there and you're probably still going to clear without fenders mods.
If you plan to keep a hint of camber in the back, get that rear offset down to at least +25 and I think you'll be in good shape.
Really Appreciate the info. Drivers' search is down so I've got a couple more questions since Im buying rear tires today;If I run the 255/35/19 out back on the 19x9.5 +42 wheels, I'll "need/want" spacers to be flush, right? I just installed the camber arms and I'm a noob in the fitment game so I don't know how much changing the camber affects distance from tire to fender and such. I also don't know how many actual degrees of camber I want... When I go to get it aligned, I just let them know how close I want the tires to the fenders and go from there, right?
Also, is it better to get an asymetrical tread pattern so I can rotate from L<->R? Do they wear any differently on slammed cars than directional tread (as far as abnormal wear).
#2753
01-20-2012, 07:13 PM
Really Appreciate the info. Drivers' search is down so I've got a couple more questions since Im buying rear tires today;If I run the 255/35/19 out back on the 19x9.5 +42 wheels, I'll "need/want" spacers to be
flush, right?
Yea, probably a 20mm spacer at the minimum. However this will depend on the camber... I suggest gettin it aligned to how much camber you WANT to run then adding spacer accordingly.
I just installed the camber arms and I'm a noob in the fitment game so I don't know how much changing the camber affects distance from tire to fender and such.
Every degree of camber is about 5mm in offset change.
I also don't know how many actual degrees of camber I want... When I go to get it aligned, I just let them know how close I want the tires to the fenders and go from there, right?
Most shops cringe at this question/request. You're going to need to get in good with your shop so they don't hate you for this lol If you decide you want -3 degrees out back, just tell them that and then tell them to ZERO the TOE.
Also, is it better to get an asymetrical tread pattern so I can rotate from L<->R? Do they wear any differently on slammed cars than directional tread (as far as abnormal wear).
Asymmetrical means it is not symmetrical, directional tires are recommend for cambered set ups and then half way through their life you flip them from left to right by removing the tire from the drivers side rear wheel and putting it on the passenger side rear wheel and vice versa.
I vote symmetrical directional tires.
depending on the camber this will be a pretty clean set up. BUT with that tire size you're definitely going to want to be lower to close up the gap.
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#2754
01-20-2012, 09:06 PM
If I run the 255/35/19 out back on the 19x9.5 +42 wheels, I'll "need/want" spacers to be
flush, right? I just installed the camber arms and I'm a noob in the fitment game so I don't know how much changing the camber affects distance from tire to fender and such.
Yea, probably a 20mm spacer at the minimum. However this will depend on the camber... I suggest gettin it aligned to how much camber you WANT to run then adding spacer accordingly.
Every degree of camber is about 5mm in offset change.
I assumed when I got my alignment I would be getting more positive camber than what I have now running natural. Is that wrong? I was basically rubbing with the 270/30 tires which I loved the look of (tires to fender), but I want the wheels out a bit more ( closer to flush with the fenders). Doesnt seem like I have nearly enough stretch to pull off the look I want since I only have about 7mm space now. So to need a 20mm spacer I would need quite a bit more negative camber?
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I also don't know how many actual degrees of camber I want... When I go to get it aligned, I just let them know how close I want the tires to the fenders and go from there, right?
Most shops cringe at this question/request. You're going to need to get in good with your shop so they don't hate you for this lol If you decide you want -3 degrees out back, just tell them that and then tell them to ZERO the TOE.
I was going to go to Firestone and take advantage of their lifetime alignment since I may play with the height a bit still. Would I be better off going to a place that deals with tuner cars more or is it really just getting lucky and getting a decent mechanic either place that I can befriend? Do they generally check what you have current, tell you, and go from there.. because I have no idea what my current camber is or what degree I want...
flush, right? I just installed the camber arms and I'm a noob in the fitment game so I don't know how much changing the camber affects distance from tire to fender and such.
Yea, probably a 20mm spacer at the minimum. However this will depend on the camber... I suggest gettin it aligned to how much camber you WANT to run then adding spacer accordingly.
Every degree of camber is about 5mm in offset change.
I assumed when I got my alignment I would be getting more positive camber than what I have now running natural. Is that wrong? I was basically rubbing with the 270/30 tires which I loved the look of (tires to fender), but I want the wheels out a bit more ( closer to flush with the fenders). Doesnt seem like I have nearly enough stretch to pull off the look I want since I only have about 7mm space now. So to need a 20mm spacer I would need quite a bit more negative camber?
-----
I also don't know how many actual degrees of camber I want... When I go to get it aligned, I just let them know how close I want the tires to the fenders and go from there, right?
Most shops cringe at this question/request. You're going to need to get in good with your shop so they don't hate you for this lol If you decide you want -3 degrees out back, just tell them that and then tell them to ZERO the TOE.
I was going to go to Firestone and take advantage of their lifetime alignment since I may play with the height a bit still. Would I be better off going to a place that deals with tuner cars more or is it really just getting lucky and getting a decent mechanic either place that I can befriend? Do they generally check what you have current, tell you, and go from there.. because I have no idea what my current camber is or what degree I want...
#2756
01-21-2012, 05:00 PM
Registered User
Hey man i'm ordering some 19x8 rims. they didn't have 8.5's 
I got a 03 sedan lowered 1.5 inches. I'm trying to figure out what spacers i would need and what tire size you would recommend, same tire size also all around? i'm not doing staggered rims for rotational purposes. I'd really appreciate your input i'm not very knowledgeable on wheels. Thanks!
I got a 03 sedan lowered 1.5 inches. I'm trying to figure out what spacers i would need and what tire size you would recommend, same tire size also all around? i'm not doing staggered rims for rotational purposes. I'd really appreciate your input i'm not very knowledgeable on wheels. Thanks!
#2757
01-21-2012, 06:12 PM
#2760
01-22-2012, 04:12 AM
hi, i have a tire fitment question i wanna ask fellow g members here. i have a 2003 sport g sedan with 18in coupe rims. i am wondering if i can put 255 in the rear without any modification? if so which size is better?255/45/18 or 255/40/18? i am also debating if i should put 245 in the back instead???
thanks
Harry
thanks
Harry
Last edited by mysoda; 01-22-2012 at 04:16 AM.