WTF happened to my paint??
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WTF happened to my paint??
pics... Take into account we're on the tail end of a NJ winter... just cleaned the car and i noticed these spots covering my passenger side from wheel to wheel. Not road-spray because there is nothing on the rear quarter or in front of the front wheel. Only on the lower 1/3 of the panels. Not present on ANYWHERE else on the car. Any ideas? I plan on bringing to the dealer to hopefully take care of it as a defect. Wax and compound = no effect.
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thanks for all the quick replies. Car is 6months old. Never repainted (as far as I know) I bought new from a dealer in Sept 07.
Not peel, these are "stains" in the paint, at least the clear coat. I did try a liquid wax, but had no effect. I will try the heavier compound next with a wheel as suggested. I find it hard to believe it's leftover suds or salt. I take it through a brushless car wash then use a detail spray to remove the drips/misses and would never miss my lower 1/3 entire passenger side.
Not peel, these are "stains" in the paint, at least the clear coat. I did try a liquid wax, but had no effect. I will try the heavier compound next with a wheel as suggested. I find it hard to believe it's leftover suds or salt. I take it through a brushless car wash then use a detail spray to remove the drips/misses and would never miss my lower 1/3 entire passenger side.
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Originally Posted by simpson
sorry but that is not orange peel the g35 does not have that much peel i am telling you that it is eather salt or dried up soap from you trying to wash your car in the winter and you did not get all the suds off it will buff it
It looks to me like an issue with acid rain issues or contaminents in the water used to wash car. If caused by hardwater scale, they usually come off or get minimized. If it is environmental fallout..ie acid rain, you have to repaint. Do you have acid rain issues in your area?
http://www.corrosion-doctors.org/Car/acid-coats.htm
Effects of acid rain on automotive coatings
Acid rain and the dry deposition of acidic particles contribute to the corrosion of metals (such as bronze) and the deterioration of paint and stone (such as marble and limestone). These effects seriously reduce the value to society of buildings, bridges, cultural objects (such as statues, monuments, and tombstones), and cars.
Over the past two decades, there have been numerous reports of damage to automotive paints and other coatings. The reported damage typically occurs on horizontal surfaces and appears as irregularly shaped, permanently etched areas. The damage can best be detected under fluorescent lamps, can be most easily observed on dark colored vehicles, and appears to occur after evaporation of a moisture droplet. In addition, some evidence suggests damage occurs most frequently on freshly painted vehicles. Usually the damage is permanent; once it has occurred, the only solution is to repaint. The general consensus within the auto industry is that the damage is caused by some form of environmental fallout. "Environmental fallout," a term widely used in the auto and coatings industries, refers to damage caused by air pollution (e.g., acid rain), decaying insects, bird droppings, pollen, and tree sap. The results of laboratory experiments and at least one field study have demonstrated that acid rain can scar automotive coatings. Furthermore, chemical analyses of the damaged areas of some exposed test panels showed elevated levels of sulfate, implicating acid rain.
The popular term "acid rain" refers to both wet and dry deposition of acidic pollutants that may damage material surfaces, including auto finishes. These pollutants, which are released when coal and other fossil fuels are burned, react with water vapor and oxidants in the atmosphere and are chemically transformed into sulfuric and nitric acids. The acidic compounds then may fall to earth as rain, snow, fog, or may join dry particles and fall as dry deposition. Automotive coatings may be damaged by all forms of acid rain, including dry deposition, especially when dry acidic deposition is mixed with dew or rain. However, it has been difficult to quantify the specific contribution of acid rain to paint finish damage relative to damage caused by other forms of environmental fallout, by the improper application of paint or by deficient paint formulations. According to coating experts, trained specialists can differentiate between the various forms of damage, but the best way of determining the cause of chemically induced damage is to conduct a detailed, chemical analysis of the damaged area.
Because evaporation of acidic moisture appears to be a key element in the damage, any steps taken to eliminate its occurrence on freshly painted vehicles may alleviate the problem. The steps include frequent washing followed by hand drying, covering the vehicle during precipitation events, and use of one of the protective coatings currently on the market that claim to protect the original finish.
The auto and coatings industries are fully aware of the potential damage and are actively pursuing the development of coatings that are more resistant to environmental fallout, including acid rain. The problem is not a universal one-- it does not affect all coatings or all vehicles even in geographic areas known to be subject to acid rain-- which suggests that technology exists to protect against this damage. Until that technology is implemented to protect all vehicles or until acid deposition is adequately reduced, frequent washing and drying and covering the vehicle appear to be the best methods for consumers who wish to minimize acid rain damage. (EPA
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Hard to see if not in direct sunlight, so more pics may take me a while now with the holiday tomorrow. I doubt acid rain since it's only on my lower 3rd of the one side. No top surfaces show this.. btw garage kept.
The peel shown is exaggerated by the angle and lighting I had to use to show the spots. Mine shows no more than other G's I've seen. I'll bring to the dealer after I try some more buffing. THanks again for all the advice.
The peel shown is exaggerated by the angle and lighting I had to use to show the spots. Mine shows no more than other G's I've seen. I'll bring to the dealer after I try some more buffing. THanks again for all the advice.
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