WTF is your problem? Julian is the one with a good attitude. He is stating all the facts, being calm while doing it, and even assisting others here. Seems to me you are the one with the poor attiitude. Do you work for GTM?

PS, this guy does not TUNE CARS. He takes his car to others to have it tuned and to install other parts. Does this guy even know how to turn a wrench?!

https://g35driver.com/forums/g-spot/...torsports.html

and

https://g35driver.com/forums/florida...ml#post3515842

 

guys please keep focused to the topic at hand here. Mods, please reomove all OT banter so we may have a focused thread with some clear results for once..

 

^ Step away from the computer and take a fap break.


Now back on topic... Per my350z:
Thanks r0mey for clarifying that the 3rd party report posted in this thread is for Vino's motor.


-Eric (still waits for GTM to respond to the 3rd party report on Vino's motor)

 

what sound did this motor make?? a tick? vibrations?? descriptions?



(bang bang chitty chitty bang bang our fine four fendered frienddddddddd)

 

I'm not taking sides and will wait till the 3rd party inspection report comes out...

I consider both Sam and Julian friends but I don't appreciate Sam bringing me into this mess with the link you posted... How is pointing out that Julian and I didn't see eye to eye at one point in time going to get Rome's car fixed...?

Every shop has had issues - most don't get posted because they get handled and worked out between the customer and shop... when things don't get resolved then everyone finds out, lesson to all going forward...

Good Luck Rome....

 

Very audible Ticking/tapping sound from the valve covers, destinctly NOT the injector tick.
PS I admittedly just took a FAP BREAK..Refreshed..

 

I do agree with this entirely. If Romey paid for a new set of Stage 2 cams, then he should have still received the replacement set of Stage 1 cams that he could probably sell to recover some money and he should receive the Stage 2 cams since he paid full price. Based on the numbers above....its like he paid $2300 for a set of Stage 2 cams. He should of had both cams since one should have been replaced under warranty.

 

Julian any idea when this 3rd party report will be completed?

 

Ask Sam,
He has been calling there 10 times a day..We only were contacted once by the 3rd party.

 

This is what occurred I did end up paying for 2 sets of cams but only have 1 set that was working. I wish i had a complete stage 1 set to sell and recoup some money. Actually some time back I had my stage 1s up for sale but had to close the thread when I found out they were defective. I told sam that I wanted stage 2 which i had wanted for some time. I never knew that the stage 1s would be replaced free because honestly. Julian had a set of bc stage 2s to give me for free. But talking to sam he strongly urged/convinced me to go with his cams and him putting the motor all together out in california so there were no problems. I have my old cams but the defective ones not new replaced cams. Only good working cams i have are the new ones I paid for.

 

Honestly I am just curious about this, but how do you know that?

 

He told us when we actually talked to him once...

 

LOL I think I will wait for someone to post it, I am not going to get involved in the middle of this......I'm watching from the sidelines

 

GTM did not warranty the defective cams

I must say, you are quite calm for someone who has been without his z for 6 months. I hope things work out for you.

 

This entire situation is confusing because of the way the information has been presented.

The engine report posted is Vino's motors inspection. This engine ran for an unspecified amount of time 4 quarts low on oil. I'm not an engine builder, but I do have a mechanical background and I know that when you run a high performance machine with almost no oil things heat up, change size, and rub. To what degree I don't know, but this HAS to be taken in to consideration when looking at the component measurements and pictures in the report that Julian has posted. Julian also hand picked the inspector on Vino's motor (assumption) so there "may" be some bias in that report. The inspector for Rome's motor was picked by Rome and is considered an unbiased third party by both GTM and MRC.

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Julian at MRC contests that the motor was run with no oil. He claims they added 4 quarts over time, and that at no time was the motor 4 quarts low. This directly condridicts GTM's claims.

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Although Julian posted the report on Vino's motor most of the conversation has been centered around Rome's car. There is NO 3rd party information available about Rome's car (yet). The reason why the 3rd party information about Rome's car is important is because Rome's car was NOT driven X amount of miles 4 quarts low on oil. The results of this inspection will have much more merit, as there are far fewer unknowns.

In Vino's case it is easy for GTM to point fingers, and honestly I can't blame them. If I'm an engine builder and I hear one of my motors has been ran without oil I would fight tooth and nail to not warranty it, as that is considered abuse/neglect. No engine builder has control of what the internals of a motor will do running 4 quarts low on oil. In fact, dealerships won't offer warranty on your stock motor if you take it in for repair and they find it has no oil! Now, if the motor is burning oil, that is a COMPLETELY different subject, but as the owner of a boosted car it is the owners responsibility to check and maintain oil levels. The burning oil issue should have been fixed by GTM BEFORE it was able to cause more substantial damage.

Romes 2nd GTM motor, on the other hand was never driven. It would be much harder for GTM to "wash their hands" of this motor. There is no way one could perceive that the motor was abused. It was never tuned and never street/track driven by MRC or the customer.

The oil squirter issue isn't confusing at all. There was an obvious mistake made in the assembly and GTM has offered to send replacement squirters (although, I too wonder about what will keep the piston from breaking the replacement squirter - are they a low profile design or something???)

I have been accused of being "biased" in my posts already and hope that my efforts to clearify these points is not seen that way. I haven't chosen sides, I've just summarized the information posted in an attempt to inform people what is what in this thread. I, like many others, have no horse in this race, and I stand to gain/lose nothing if either shop were to close their doors tomorrow. To the best of my knowledge these are "facts" documented in this thread (besides where noted as assumptions).