3rd party independant tear down results of a failed VQ motor.
#50
Hey good advice Mike.. I never thought about doing that.. but I think I will before I step into the FI world.. about how much on average does it cost and where you recommend I do it? I live in San Diego. I usually work on the cars I own but with the G I take it to a trustworthy mechanic for everything. Next time I'll bring this up with him
Back on topic...very interested to see how this turns out.. Let's hope it stays civil and that the facts come out and speak for themselves!
Back on topic...very interested to see how this turns out.. Let's hope it stays civil and that the facts come out and speak for themselves!
Last edited by serturbo; 10-23-2008 at 11:29 PM.
#51
To me, this is all just a talk since we haven't seen any solid proves (reports) from third party yet.
Both of you should provide a scanned 3rd party independant tear down results for us to see.
Both of you should provide a scanned 3rd party independant tear down results for us to see.
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I guess the other 200+ customer we have built engines for should be worried as well, including my self
Ironic that all of our accused failures have come from the same shop, interesting.
Please wait patiently for our response. Sam does not have time to go back and forth all day on the forum, therefore all accusations will be addressed in one post.
Thank you,
-George
Ironic that all of our accused failures have come from the same shop, interesting.
Please wait patiently for our response. Sam does not have time to go back and forth all day on the forum, therefore all accusations will be addressed in one post.
Thank you,
-George
#54
Originally Posted by serturbo
Hey good advice Mike.. I never thought about doing that.. but I think I will before I step into the FI world.. about how much on average does it cost and where you recommend I do it? I live in San Diego. I usually work on the cars I own but with the G I take it to a trustworthy mechanic for everything. Next time I'll bring this up with him
Back on topic...very interested to see how this turns out.. Let's hope it stays civil and that the facts come out and speak for themselves!
Back on topic...very interested to see how this turns out.. Let's hope it stays civil and that the facts come out and speak for themselves!
serturbo YGPM.
#55
Originally Posted by ttrank
So you have never seen anything reliable from Forged Performance, Performance Factory or UMS Tuning?
Well let me be your first. I have a built motor and twin turbo from UMS Tuning on my sedan with 0 problems.
Well let me be your first. I have a built motor and twin turbo from UMS Tuning on my sedan with 0 problems.
I'm going to stay out of this and just watch
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Originally Posted by George@GTM
I guess the other 200+ customer we have built engines for should be worried as well, including my self
Ironic that all of our accused failures have come from the same shop, interesting.
Please wait patiently for our response. Sam does not have time to go back and forth all day on the forum, therefore all accusations will be addressed in one post.
Thank you,
-George
Ironic that all of our accused failures have come from the same shop, interesting.
Please wait patiently for our response. Sam does not have time to go back and forth all day on the forum, therefore all accusations will be addressed in one post.
Thank you,
-George
As far as the third party inspection, of the last motor in question, if the engine is timed correctly, which it was, there is ZERO for you to blame us for once again..I will post all of the information and noted my tech gathered on some of your engines once you guys post your long winded Wikipiedia reply.
And if we did F' up the timing on that motor, we will 100% cover the repairs as we said. If its not the timing, then I hope Sam is willing to pay for the labor and repairs as he agreed to do with me, and the customer on the phone.
I know Sam was VERY, VERY eager to send that particular car to Sharif for inspection, however we felt it was better sent to someone that Neither one of our shops have any form of business relations with. In fact the shop the engine is at, the tech working on the motor was the engine builder for Bullish Racing.Remember the STREET GLOW 6 second Toyota Solaris? So I will take that builders word as gospel, since neither of our shops have achieved near the level of greatness he has as a builder.
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Well all I can say is....Im glad its finally out . I had always thought somethng wasnt right with that shop when simple questions I asked wouldnt be answered by Sam about Vortech boosted cars he had tuned . Whp numbers were ALWAYS higher out of that shop than any other with simular set ups .
Money is the root of all evil...isnt it ?
Money is the root of all evil...isnt it ?
#58
Originally Posted by George@GTM
I guess the other 200+ customer we have built engines for should be worried as well, including my self
-George
-George
My point was that it's obviously better for the customer and the shop to get everything done at once and solely by that particular shop. Then there is no finger pointing from the shops involved, while the customer waits and waits for it to be resolved. This obvious distance creates obstacles in communication, time in transit to ship the motors back and forth for inspection by an independent shop, then back to the original shop and finally an agreement of what is the cause of the failure. Then finally all sides have to agree on a fair solution, which again can cause even more delay. It can be a nightmare, which is what we're seeing here.
Last edited by BrianlG35C; 10-24-2008 at 10:28 AM.
#59
Originally Posted by booger
Well all I can say is....Im glad its finally out . I had always thought somethng wasnt right with that shop when simple questions I asked wouldnt be answered by Sam about Vortech boosted cars he had tuned . Whp numbers were ALWAYS higher out of that shop than any other with simular set ups .
Money is the root of all evil...isnt it ?
Money is the root of all evil...isnt it ?
For the love of money is the root of all evil
I actually made an id to watch this thread. BTW the avatars are very cool on this site opposed to my350z.