Hows VRT? Violent Racing Technology
#106
#107
Stop posting until the JWT actually comes out and you can build such a car for your customers. I am anxiously waiting for this, but it is getting very annoying listening to everyone affiliated with this company(customers and otherwise) spin their wheels defending themselves. Let everyone flame and then back it up when it comes time. Best of luck.
#108
Originally Posted by djniknala
Stop posting until the JWT actually comes out and you can build such a car for your customers. I am anxiously waiting for this, but it is getting very annoying listening to everyone affiliated with this company(customers and otherwise) spin their wheels defending themselves. Let everyone flame and then back it up when it comes time. Best of luck.
#109
Originally Posted by Vision619
Ok let's make it more legit. After you have reach this point, talk $hit to me...
2005 350Z – Ultra Yellow
Exterior/Engine
1. Stillen Stage 5 Supercharger
2. Jim Wolf Fuel Management System
3. Jim Wolf Pop Charger
4. Jim Wolf Cams
5. Jim Wolf 3rd Gen HIGH CLAMPING FORCE CLUTCH SET
6. Jim Wolf Light Weight Flywheel
7. Snow Performance Stage 1 Methanol Boost Cooler Kit
8. Stillen Oil Cooler Kit
9. Stillen Sway Bars (front and rear)
10. Stillen Front Supercharger Strut Brace
11. JIC Magic Coil Overs
12. Nismo Limited Slip Differential W/Extension Plate
13. 2 sets of Nismo 18” Performance Racing Wheels
14. AP Racing 6 Piston front calipers W/14.25” 3 Piece Rotors
15. AP Racing 4 Piston rear calipers W/13” 3 piece rotors
16. Steel braided brake lines all around
17. Michelin Pilot Sport II 315/30-18 rear 285/30-18 front
18. Samco sport silicone hoses
19. VIS Carbon fiber hood
20. Stillen Type 1 Rear Spoiler
21. Stillen Front Lip Spoiler
22. Aluminum mesh front grill
23. Hosier Slicks - 305/30-18 rear 285/30-18 front
Interior
1. Alpine IVA-D300 in dash DVD player
2. Diamond Audio D661S 6.5” Components
3. Diamond Audio D661I 6.5” Coax
4. JL Audio 450/4 4 Channel Amplifier
5. JL Audio 1000/1 Mono Amplifier
6. 2 JL Audio 10W6v2 Subwoofers
7. Custom built enclosure / amp rack all flush in the floor
8. Sony Playstation 2
And I won't even mention all the littlwe Nismo shifters and mats and BS that doesn't cont for a damn thing. Speedo's, Tach's etc...
Take a Stillen kit that is supposed toonly put down 320hp to the wheel and produce 410. Then we can talk about "abilities". If you'll notice it says Stllen Stage 5. That does not exist. Call Stillen and try to order a stage 5 kit that puts down 410. Not going to happen.
2005 350Z – Ultra Yellow
Exterior/Engine
1. Stillen Stage 5 Supercharger
2. Jim Wolf Fuel Management System
3. Jim Wolf Pop Charger
4. Jim Wolf Cams
5. Jim Wolf 3rd Gen HIGH CLAMPING FORCE CLUTCH SET
6. Jim Wolf Light Weight Flywheel
7. Snow Performance Stage 1 Methanol Boost Cooler Kit
8. Stillen Oil Cooler Kit
9. Stillen Sway Bars (front and rear)
10. Stillen Front Supercharger Strut Brace
11. JIC Magic Coil Overs
12. Nismo Limited Slip Differential W/Extension Plate
13. 2 sets of Nismo 18” Performance Racing Wheels
14. AP Racing 6 Piston front calipers W/14.25” 3 Piece Rotors
15. AP Racing 4 Piston rear calipers W/13” 3 piece rotors
16. Steel braided brake lines all around
17. Michelin Pilot Sport II 315/30-18 rear 285/30-18 front
18. Samco sport silicone hoses
19. VIS Carbon fiber hood
20. Stillen Type 1 Rear Spoiler
21. Stillen Front Lip Spoiler
22. Aluminum mesh front grill
23. Hosier Slicks - 305/30-18 rear 285/30-18 front
Interior
1. Alpine IVA-D300 in dash DVD player
2. Diamond Audio D661S 6.5” Components
3. Diamond Audio D661I 6.5” Coax
4. JL Audio 450/4 4 Channel Amplifier
5. JL Audio 1000/1 Mono Amplifier
6. 2 JL Audio 10W6v2 Subwoofers
7. Custom built enclosure / amp rack all flush in the floor
8. Sony Playstation 2
And I won't even mention all the littlwe Nismo shifters and mats and BS that doesn't cont for a damn thing. Speedo's, Tach's etc...
Take a Stillen kit that is supposed toonly put down 320hp to the wheel and produce 410. Then we can talk about "abilities". If you'll notice it says Stllen Stage 5. That does not exist. Call Stillen and try to order a stage 5 kit that puts down 410. Not going to happen.
Has VRT taken a kit currently on the market and done something with that? Also include proof, pictures? Dynos?
#111
cmon guys.........
I know Mike A. and Scott from VRT Racing.(they probably dont like me anymore, but who cares) I shouldnt be posting but.........Honestly, Mike A. is a really good, honest, and great business man. The way some of his employees or customers came on here was aggressive, even if defending yourselves. Even if a business gets flamed on or whatever, you should defend yourself in a more professional way. Dont stoop to other peoples level and start bickering back. Explain yourself, goal, perspective or whatever in a professional matter. I know what Mike and VRT is here to do. Make awesome kits for z's and g's just like SFR or APS or JWT. Even though he is competeing with other shops, at least there are more people out there that care about other peoples interests(fast, dependable street cars). Doesnt it suck when you are limited to just vanilla ice cream? how about some topping on that? Or even chocolate ice cream with peanuts and caramel? More variety to chose from. I work for a great fabrication company that frequent these boards. Yes, i work for a rival company. Nothing to do or affiliate with VRT in any way. But I know Mike A. and Scott personally. Mike is a very cool guy. Wants everything done right and clean. Very professional when it comes to business. I just want to help clear things up a little bit. They are not like a pann auto! I remember Mike telling me," I dont want to give the customers' car back with just a tuned turbo kit, but a well tuned(brakes, suspension, tires) car alltogether that can be driven to the track and back" Im not trying to change anyones opinion on VRT, but they, just like EVERY shop out there, are trying to get thier toe in a very big market.
p.s. wouldnt it be cool anyways to gather and compare a bunch of the most powerful z's and g's in the country and have a shoot out?
p.s. wouldnt it be cool anyways to gather and compare a bunch of the most powerful z's and g's in the country and have a shoot out?
#112
I'm still waiting for my answers!!!!!!!!! If you have a bad azz company prove it!
1. Lets see pictures? If you have a kit that we can't get don't talk about it.
2. Lets see dyno sheets?
3. lets see pictures of your location?
4. Do you build motors? Lets see pictures?
You can't compare yourself to the other companies until you show you can hang, so lets see it!!!
1. Lets see pictures? If you have a kit that we can't get don't talk about it.
2. Lets see dyno sheets?
3. lets see pictures of your location?
4. Do you build motors? Lets see pictures?
You can't compare yourself to the other companies until you show you can hang, so lets see it!!!
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#113
Originally Posted by Vision619
Hey Tinman, bring your BS to me. Ask ME questions. Tell ME why VRT sucks like you say it does. Do you really want to get in to this? Does Tim? Do you want to go there? Are you saying the companies we work with like JWT and NISMO aren't the best in the business? Are you saying we don't know what we are doing? And what do you base this off of?
Btw, if your going to respond to this, you BETTER bring some FACTS. I don't care about what you think you know or heard. Bring facts. Bottom line reasons for saying what you are saying about VRT.
Then I will respect you. Until then, you’re a child with nothing better to do then run your mouth on these boards. And oh yeah … Bring your SFR car to the Dyno tough guy. Any one you want, any time. Not even the track. If you want to talk all this $hit, then you need to back it up.
Btw, if your going to respond to this, you BETTER bring some FACTS. I don't care about what you think you know or heard. Bring facts. Bottom line reasons for saying what you are saying about VRT.
Then I will respect you. Until then, you’re a child with nothing better to do then run your mouth on these boards. And oh yeah … Bring your SFR car to the Dyno tough guy. Any one you want, any time. Not even the track. If you want to talk all this $hit, then you need to back it up.
You might want to quit while you are ahead.Tinmans car is a well rounded car and will have the horsepower to back it up.We went way beyond what we did to Michaels car or what you guys are doing to your project cars.
I told Michael that I would try to keep things civilized between SFR and VRT but with the way you and Scott are posting, it is making it tough to do so especially when you are calling SFR out.The fact is that I know way more about building cars,motors,turbocharger systems,tuning,etc......since I have been doing it a long time. So you are calling me out? Just because I respected what Michael A. asked of me which is to not get into a pissing contest, does not mean that I am going to sit here forever and watch this BS that is being posted and not say a word.You guys drew the line.Sorry Michael A. but I have not posted one thing since we talked but at this point I have to say something
The funny thing about it is that you are asking someone not to talk **** but you guys are not doing what you are asking.Someone has to bend and it should be the company that is trying to conduct business here.Wouldnt you agree? Just quit it man and let your cars speak for themselves.If you want to have a little dyno shootoout, then SFR would be more then willing to participate.
Last edited by TurboTim; 10-01-2005 at 10:12 PM.
#114
Originally Posted by wa2good
And from what I understand, You either don't know how to read, you were badly misinformed, or you just don't know any better! NONE of the VRT cars were built by anyone else other than VRT, period! As for the rest of the mud slinging, HUH, VRT will just let the cars and their overall performance speak for themselves.
"Do not speak unless you know of what you speak of"
Interesting reading.....http://www.my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=142365
"Do not speak unless you know of what you speak of"
Interesting reading.....http://www.my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=142365
Actually this is not true Scott.We turboed, tuned and built Mikes motor originally.Yes it had brakes, wheels and suspension which is basic bolt-ons. But the heart of the system,the part that makes the car go down the road was done by Speed Force Racing.Period.If you want to argue about it we surely can.I have tons of pictures of the car in our shop and the parts that we installed on it.My shop,myself and my employees are in your VRT video.
If you are the ****......then it will be known.If you are not, then it will be known too.
Last edited by TurboTim; 10-01-2005 at 09:58 PM.
#116
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Originally Posted by TurboTim
You might want to quit while you are ahead.Tinmans car is a well rounded car and will have the horsepower to back it up.We went way beyond what we did to Michaels car or what you guys are doing to your project cars.
I told Michael that I would try to keep things civilized between SFR and VRT but with the way you and Scott are posting, it is making it tough to do so especially when you are calling SFR out.The fact is that I know way more about building cars,motors,turbocharger systems,tuning,etc......since I have been doing it a long time. So you are calling me out? Just because I respected what Michael A. asked of me which is to not get into a pissing contest, does not mean that I am going to sit here forever and watch this BS that is being posted and not say a word.You guys drew the line.Sorry Michael A. but I have not posted one thing since we talked but at this point I have to say something
The funny thing about it is that you are asking someone not to talk **** but you guys are not doing what you are asking.Someone has to bend and it should be the company that is trying to conduct business here.Wouldnt you agree? Just quit it man and let your cars speak for themselves.If you want to have a little dyno shootoout, then SFR would be more then willing to participate.
I told Michael that I would try to keep things civilized between SFR and VRT but with the way you and Scott are posting, it is making it tough to do so especially when you are calling SFR out.The fact is that I know way more about building cars,motors,turbocharger systems,tuning,etc......since I have been doing it a long time. So you are calling me out? Just because I respected what Michael A. asked of me which is to not get into a pissing contest, does not mean that I am going to sit here forever and watch this BS that is being posted and not say a word.You guys drew the line.Sorry Michael A. but I have not posted one thing since we talked but at this point I have to say something
The funny thing about it is that you are asking someone not to talk **** but you guys are not doing what you are asking.Someone has to bend and it should be the company that is trying to conduct business here.Wouldnt you agree? Just quit it man and let your cars speak for themselves.If you want to have a little dyno shootoout, then SFR would be more then willing to participate.
Tim, I have no problems with you. However, Tinman started blowing me up from my very first post. Ever since then he has put me on the defensive and I have had no choice but to continually respond with defensive answers instead the of information and answers people here are looking for.
Now, as far as you, we never said $hit about you or SFR in a negative manner that I am aware of. Do you remember the conversation you and Mike A. had about what he did not want to mention here on these boards? Let's just keep it that way man. You are a cool guy and a great tuner. Just leave it at that.
Now Tinman stepped up and was the better man than I and squashed it. I am willing to do that with you as well. there's no reason to get in to this. There is no benefit for you to go there so lets just leave this alone...
What do you say?
PS ... Your right, Tinman has a very well rounded car.
PSS ... What was Tinmans last Dyno? - 620. Yeah we can meet there if you like.
Last edited by Vision619; 10-02-2005 at 11:26 PM.
#117
Originally Posted by TurboTim
Actually this is not true Scott.We turboed, tuned and built Mikes motor originally.Yes it had brakes, wheels and suspension which is basic bolt-ons. But the heart of the system,the part that makes the car go down the road was done by Speed Force Racing.Period.If you want to argue about it we surely can.I have tons of pictures of the car in our shop and the parts that we installed on it.My shop,myself and my employees are in your VRT video.
If you are the ****......then it will be known.If you are not, then it will be known too.
If you are the ****......then it will be known.If you are not, then it will be known too.
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Here it is Mike A's post again; http://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=142365
Tim you personally are cool and a great tuner. I don't have any problem, and shouldn't with you personally. The red auto. G35 coupe (Tinmans car) looks pretty nice and is obviously done well, congrats.
Although it is kinda cool, we at VRT just think there is more potential in these particular cars (G35's and Z's) than just some "max power" 8 second dyno runs, (straight line) drag racing, and freeway racing. That is the direction that we (VRT) are going here, these ARE sports cars and sport luxury cars, right everybody??! The power train is just one element of a VRT car. SFR and VRT have almost two separate goals here.
Tim, I think we should agree to drop this whole thing. It doesn't need to get out of hand. (again) LOL HAHA! Call me this next week and we will do lunch, I have some ideas to bounce off you.
#118
Originally Posted by G2FAST
I'm still waiting for my answers!!!!!!!!! If you have a bad azz company prove it!
1. Lets see pictures? If you have a kit that we can't get don't talk about it.
2. Lets see dyno sheets?
3. lets see pictures of your location?
4. Do you build motors? Lets see pictures?
You can't compare yourself to the other companies until you show you can hang, so lets see it!!!![Cool](https://g35driver.com/forums/images/smilies/cool.gif)
1. Lets see pictures? If you have a kit that we can't get don't talk about it.
2. Lets see dyno sheets?
3. lets see pictures of your location?
4. Do you build motors? Lets see pictures?
You can't compare yourself to the other companies until you show you can hang, so lets see it!!!
![Cool](https://g35driver.com/forums/images/smilies/cool.gif)
We most definitely build (in house) our own motors.
We do offer to our customers a complete car build (at many stages) one including a build motor with the JWT TT kit (the kit will be called a prototype until its official "to the public" release by JWT, pending CARB approval)
Prove what exactly, you live close enough, PM me and I will set up a personal tour just for you, and maybe even arrange for you to see a few of our customers cars and ask them some questions. Sound good.
#119
Originally Posted by 4rcedFed
I know Mike A. and Scott from VRT Racing.(they probably dont like me anymore, but who cares) I shouldnt be posting but.........Honestly, Mike A. is a really good, honest, and great business man. The way some of his employees or customers came on here was aggressive, even if defending yourselves. Even if a business gets flamed on or whatever, you should defend yourself in a more professional way. Dont stoop to other peoples level and start bickering back. Explain yourself, goal, perspective or whatever in a professional matter. I know what Mike and VRT is here to do. Make awesome kits for z's and g's just like SFR or APS or JWT. Even though he is competeing with other shops, at least there are more people out there that care about other peoples interests(fast, dependable street cars). Doesnt it suck when you are limited to just vanilla ice cream? how about some topping on that? Or even chocolate ice cream with peanuts and caramel? More variety to chose from. I work for a great fabrication company that frequent these boards. Yes, i work for a rival company. Nothing to do or affiliate with VRT in any way. But I know Mike A. and Scott personally. Mike is a very cool guy. Wants everything done right and clean. Very professional when it comes to business. I just want to help clear things up a little bit. They are not like a pann auto! I remember Mike telling me," I dont want to give the customers' car back with just a tuned turbo kit, but a well tuned(brakes, suspension, tires) car alltogether that can be driven to the track and back" Im not trying to change anyones opinion on VRT, but they, just like EVERY shop out there, are trying to get thier toe in a very big market.
p.s. wouldnt it be cool anyways to gather and compare a bunch of the most powerful z's and g's in the country and have a shoot out?
p.s. wouldnt it be cool anyways to gather and compare a bunch of the most powerful z's and g's in the country and have a shoot out?
PS. All these nice things said about Mike are cool, but what about ME! LOL j/k
Last edited by wa2good; 10-03-2005 at 12:34 AM.
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WHAT THE F*CK?
MIKE..do you want to go at it again?
what did you and i agree on? i don't talk about you or VRT and you don't talk about me.REMEMBER????? to tell you the true i really bite my tongue and let it go.i do want to say a lot of things but at one point i think going back and forth with you guys is a waste of time.that's why i called it quit.and now why you post stuffs like this:
if you just shut your mouth and go back to check.you registered to this site not to long ago and your 1st post is in this f*cking thread.YOU start calling my name out and then challenged me.go ahead check it.now who blowing who????????
what the f*ck are you talking about here?do you really have a problem with me?
MIKE..do you want to go at it again?
what did you and i agree on? i don't talk about you or VRT and you don't talk about me.REMEMBER????? to tell you the true i really bite my tongue and let it go.i do want to say a lot of things but at one point i think going back and forth with you guys is a waste of time.that's why i called it quit.and now why you post stuffs like this:
Tinman started blowing me up from my very first post
Now Tinman stepped up and was the better man than I and squashed it.
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