Oh...then...um....yeah, not so good.

Its ok is all - But im a videophile at home and have about 20k in my theater room...

The total cabin noise is quieter in the 07 sedan (coming from an 04 sedan).

I did not find the 04 model to be acceptable at all and quickly yanked. This is one seems ok right now, not ready to rip it out yet.

I do have reference work to go by and this does not replicate reference sound or db levels. I can do the 6-15 hz material in war of the worlds in my theater and move **** -120ft away with ease. (well 114, but who is counting when your ball sack moves)

To be fair, all car stereos suck compared to serious gear...its...in...a...car.

But like I said - I (so far) do not feel like riping this one out.

I am going to be focusing mostly on source quality via ripping codecs more than the speakers.

For stock stereos - I give it 8/10. Compared to my 4 tandem SVS subs in my house...I give it not a whiff.

Take it for what you will...if you like $20k sound...I suspect you will want to do more in your car.

Suck might be strong but yeah you cant expext stock (or any) stereo to compete with a designed home theater room. I too have a home theater that I have invested in. At no time did I ever expect my car to sound anything like it. Hell the sub wouldn't even fit in the car and would certainly tickle the brown note! I too have an SVS sub .. SVS PB2-Ultra.

I LOVE the sound of the SoW. The only thing I might add to it would be bass .. not because it really needs it more because thats my preference.

This is my only complaint with my car. It needs more bass imo.

WOW< all the people not impressed, surprises me. Maybe I am impressed becasue the ELS int he current TL sucks so bad. I have test driven the G35 now 3 times and each time I go back to the TL and realize wow what a piece of crap this surround soudn is int he TL. The G system has deeper, cleaner bass and more dynamic range through the power band than the TL does and I really can't compare to the older G35s as I only drove one a few times. I think the biggest propblem witht he G35 system is all the sound is int he front, I usually like the front to supplement the back sound, but the G is backwards. After listening to the dull muddy ELS in the TL for 3 years I guess anything sounds great. I did find the G to be richer and cleaner than the TL, although one thing the G did confirm for me was that XM quailty is poor as it soudns just as bad in the G as it does in my TL.

Coming from 3 years of the ELS I woudl say the ELs is nice at lower than 25% power, it hold together well and has good dynamic range, although the sub creates thumpy bass, nto clean deep bass. Once about 25-35% power the ELS flattens out and gets muddy. Sure DVD-A sounds good, but honestly I have test driven the G now 3 times and brng my own music and find the G much cleaner and reichers, and while the bass is not as powerful, it is deeper and cleaner than the ELS, not I said deeper and cleaner the ELS when the sub really kicks is thumpy and the biggest probelme with bass is so many people are used to thumpy pounding bass, not deep clean bass. Get a svs sound (http://www.svsound.com) sub for your home theater and you will understand what I mean.

Well, I've had the car close to a year now and I'll admit the SOW has grown on me to some extent.

The 1st few months were bad. I was in hardcore bass withdrawal. I fiddled with the front/rear fade, I fiddled with the treble and bass, nothing sounded right.

Finally I settled on 50/50 front/rear fade, bass to max, and treble a couple clicks from max, but the biggest thing I've found is that the system really does not produce solid bottom end until it's over 1/2 way to the max on volume. You simply have to turn it up very loud (about 3/4 max volume) for the bottom end to start coming in.

Only problem is, that's also about the level where the mids and highs start to hurt.

Maybe the reason it's sounding better after a year is because i've been playing it so loud trying to hear some bass that my high end hearing is now gone, which means I'm actually hearing more bass now than I did a year ago!

Something else that seems to help is to lean your left knee against the drivers door panel. You pick up a little vibration off the door which gives the impression that there's more bass.

What aggravates me the most is that most of the the gripes about the bottom end could have been solved very cheaply with a simple bass boost button or a 3 band EQ. Calling a system a "studio on wheels" that has no EQ adjustments other than bass and treble without even a bass boost button is really pretty sad. What would it have cost to have added a bass boost function to the system? Probably about 50 cents per car, maybe.

I've had mine for a little over a month. I love the clarity and separation of sound. But, I love it most when I am taking friends to lunch, etc...and have the music down low. It still maintains a rich sound that is not intrusive. The sound has yet to beat the JL speakers and Panasonic head I have in my GSR.

One thing I think is the problme is people have grown acustom to artifical boost at both ends, bass and treble. Also most sub and low ends are done incorrectly, they are boomy and thumpy. Good low end is deep and rich, not necessarily boomy. My guess is the SOW was targeted for accuracy and with that many people will feel that the bottom end is missing. I spent a lot of time listening to home theater subs and researching them when I put my home theater together 4 years ago and I too was into the thumpy boomy bass until I did the research and then heard svs sound subs. These are amazing at producing accurate deep clean lows. Now when I hear the boomy stuff I realize how much accuracy is lost. Even many expensive subs are poor at low end accuracy. While I woudl prefer the G35 to have a better balance of front to rear sound and to have the same sound stage from the rear as the front, it does seem to be very clean and accurate compared to many cars in its class. I saw the review hear of the ELS in the TL, of which I have owned 3 and we all have our tastes and prefercnes, I find the TL ELS to be flat muddy and the highs very much dull and muted, and whie th ELS has decent lows fomr the sub at the low end of the poswe rband the dynamic raneg flattens out quickly as you move into the upper portion of the power band. Again to each their own.

I'm puzzled as to why you prefer the soundstage to be behind you. When you are listening to music at home, do you turn your back to the speakers? When you go to see some live music, do you face the rear of the club?

Let me rephrase that, I don't want the sound stage behind me I want it to be fuller behind me. And while I don't yet owna G35 (test drove it 3 long times now) I probably relaize that after owning it I woudl be fine with it's layout. I think many of us out of habit push more soudn to rear becaue in many cars the bigger speakers that can handle the low end better are in the rear, and since lows are not perceived directionally pushing some sound back helps. In the G35 this is not the case. I think most people if they live with the G35 SOW long enough they will get used to it. In most cars I generally set fader 1 tck to the back and balance one tick to the left to put me more in the center stage. Another problem I suspect is with all the sound up front and you are sitting there your left leg can interfere with the sound delivery.

I'm interested in '07 G35 sedan and plan to purchase one soon. I tried the bose studio on wheel system at the dealership and I was NOT impressed! IMO it sounds worse than my dad's '03 camry xle JBL system. However the bose has slightly more bass.

I'm interested in '07 G35 sedan sport 6M base model and I want the bose system without sunroof. Too bad I can't get just bose upgrade. Because the bose and sunroof come together in the premimum package. After hearing the system in person and reading the comments here I might not get the premium package.

I really like the Bose system. I am 52 years old and my hearing is not all that good, (thanks to Static X). Anyway, I love the sound. I love the clarity and separation at low volumes. However, if you are young and demand the "thump", you won't find it. I also have an Integra GSR with a great Panasonic head and JL speakers with a 10 inch sub. I love that, too. It all depends on what you are looking for. I find the Bose great for that smooth, luxury feeling. I love the JL's for that "I still love to rock" feeling. It's all subjective.

Amen! I have a HSU 1220 which can peel paint with 100 DB+ at 12 Hz in a 2000 Cu ft. room. Even at a mild level (well, under 80 DB) ref level, the Boston Test CD recording of Saint-Saëns' Third Symphony causes window frames to rattle in my 6600 Cu Ft. Listening area(low C 16 Hz pedal tone). It's almost freaky because you can't hear the tone, you just perceive it as pressure. Try finding a car audio system that can produce clean "Deep bass"......I rarely see them.

Years ago I traded in my Grand Am with a beautiful ADS system, perfectly tuned for the car with nearly flat response......for a 98 Maxima with stock Bose system. Is the Bose as good as my hand built and tuned system? Yes and no. The built system was much greater in clarity and range but the overall Bose sound is smooth, and the imaging is quite good for all passengers (my custom system was built to please me....the driver). The Bose does bass generally ok, nothing fantastic but it is good enough that I decided to leave it stock for the last 7 years. Now it's time for a new car, and I want a good system in place from the factory. If it is well done, I will be happy. I don't have the time in my life to invest tuning and tweaking like I did when I was in college. I have not listened to the SOW yet, I plan on taking a reference disc with me next visit. MY friend bought a TL last year and the ELS is quite nice, the low bass does not match my old built system, but it is great for 99% of the owners. What a change it is from the stereos of the 90's!

Our new G is actually my wifes's car and I get to drive it occasionally, I was wondering what other owners had their settings for fader, treble and bass set at.

My overall opinion of the SOW so far is that is a good OEM system and alot better than the Bose in my Mazda RX-8.