Hotchkis Sway Bars
www.hpautoworks.com. Probably better to call him rather than PM him here.
If you look at it from purely a cost per $/return, sway bars hands down. I'm considering a "drop" (to me) to mean springs and shocks, so at about 1/3 the price, the sways offer a bigger improvement.
One thing to note is that the stiffer sway bars will make the shortcomings of the stock springs and struts more evident. Meaning, while in a turn on a less than smooth surface, the sways will keep the body from rolling but will put more stress on the stock springs and struts to keep up (but, they can only do so much). What you will experience is a "bumpier" ride as the stock spring rates are too soft and the stock shocks are valved too soft.
Once you install them on the stock springs and shocks, you'll know what I mean.
One thing to note is that the stiffer sway bars will make the shortcomings of the stock springs and struts more evident. Meaning, while in a turn on a less than smooth surface, the sways will keep the body from rolling but will put more stress on the stock springs and struts to keep up (but, they can only do so much). What you will experience is a "bumpier" ride as the stock spring rates are too soft and the stock shocks are valved too soft.
Once you install them on the stock springs and shocks, you'll know what I mean.
Oh ic. One of the reasons why I prefer doing sways over a drop is mostly because I want to keep the height cuz of the bad weather we get up here with the snow and all.
Also its gonna be a bit more expensive since I would wanna get spacers as well. Then I need to get a camber kit also :S
Thx for your input =)
But a drop would look sweeeeeeeeeeeeeetttttttt with my M45's!!!
Also its gonna be a bit more expensive since I would wanna get spacers as well. Then I need to get a camber kit also :S
Thx for your input =)
But a drop would look sweeeeeeeeeeeeeetttttttt with my M45's!!!
sanman - I thought so. i couldnt have described it better myself. The cost/return value. Hence, why I wanna get sways first over a drop. Unfortunately, we still dont know about X's for these sways yet :S
G35(skyline) - Apparently you do need the camber kit.. or your tires will get eaten up fast. Thats another cost to add... alignment after 2 weeks of the drop :S See how pricey doing a drop is. Also, having to worry about potholes and uneven road surfaces :S
G35(skyline) - Apparently you do need the camber kit.. or your tires will get eaten up fast. Thats another cost to add... alignment after 2 weeks of the drop :S See how pricey doing a drop is. Also, having to worry about potholes and uneven road surfaces :S
I think im gonna save up for the sways and some visual mods then.
IM soo confused.. i want to lower it for the look and handling.. but i dont want to be switching tires every 8,000 miles
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The best part of adjustable sways is the ability to tune.
FWIW guys...
Don't go too stiff on your initial setup.
Too stiff & you can loose grip BIG time.
You can get a very nasty surprise when you least expect it.
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 21,095
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From: Toronto, GTA north
I wonder if they have a high enough spring rate to work effectively with the stiffer sways?
From past experience sways will by far have the greatest effect.
The best part of adjustable sways is the ability to tune.
FWIW guys...
Don't go too stiff on your initial setup.
Too stiff & you can loose grip BIG time.
You can get a very nasty surprise when you least expect it.
The best part of adjustable sways is the ability to tune.
FWIW guys...
Don't go too stiff on your initial setup.
Too stiff & you can loose grip BIG time.
You can get a very nasty surprise when you least expect it.
My sway bars have been installed. San~man gave a spot-on performance review of the sways. I'm using the outermost setting and handling is more neutral than anything. Body roll has been greatly reduced as I'd expected due to past experience with sways bars on other cars. When my new whees/tires come in, I will definitely try the middle setting (albeit with caution). As for installation, I had it done at my friend's shop so I can't really attest to anything in that regard except for this -- wear gloves or use something other than your bare fingers when applying the silicone grease because that stuff is hard to wash off. Also, the Hotchkis bars are A LOT beefier and heavier than the stock Journey bars, especially the front.
I also concur that sway bars will give you the biggest bang for the buck handling wise. The difference is huge and immediately noticeable. On the other hand, a lowered car does look very nice...hahaha
I also concur that sway bars will give you the biggest bang for the buck handling wise. The difference is huge and immediately noticeable. On the other hand, a lowered car does look very nice...hahaha



