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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 12:21 AM
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do you have his contact info?
www.hpautoworks.com. Probably better to call him rather than PM him here.

Originally Posted by Wes_888
Which will improve handling more dramatically? sway bars or a drop?

If u had to choose one only.
If you look at it from purely a cost per $/return, sway bars hands down. I'm considering a "drop" (to me) to mean springs and shocks, so at about 1/3 the price, the sways offer a bigger improvement.

One thing to note is that the stiffer sway bars will make the shortcomings of the stock springs and struts more evident. Meaning, while in a turn on a less than smooth surface, the sways will keep the body from rolling but will put more stress on the stock springs and struts to keep up (but, they can only do so much). What you will experience is a "bumpier" ride as the stock spring rates are too soft and the stock shocks are valved too soft.

Once you install them on the stock springs and shocks, you'll know what I mean.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Wes_888
Oh ic. One of the reasons why I prefer doing sways over a drop is mostly because I want to keep the height cuz of the bad weather we get up here with the snow and all.

Also its gonna be a bit more expensive since I would wanna get spacers as well. Then I need to get a camber kit also :S

Thx for your input =)

But a drop would look sweeeeeeeeeeeeeetttttttt with my M45's!!!
I was also unsure of lowering springs... but do you really need the camber arms? cant you just get an Alignment?
 
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 12:36 AM
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sanman - I thought so. i couldnt have described it better myself. The cost/return value. Hence, why I wanna get sways first over a drop. Unfortunately, we still dont know about X's for these sways yet :S

G35(skyline) - Apparently you do need the camber kit.. or your tires will get eaten up fast. Thats another cost to add... alignment after 2 weeks of the drop :S See how pricey doing a drop is. Also, having to worry about potholes and uneven road surfaces :S
 
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Wes_888
G35(skyline) - Apparently you do need the camber kit.. or your tires will get eaten up fast. Thats another cost to add... alignment after 2 weeks of the drop :S See how pricey doing a drop is. Also, having to worry about potholes and uneven road surfaces :S
Ya i know what ur saying bro... the gap just pisses me off. and if i lower it i would need spacers.... dam lol.. thats like $650+ right there.. and then you also need to deal with ur shocks giving out.

I think im gonna save up for the sways and some visual mods then.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 12:44 AM
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haha on the plus side, at least you can purchase these sways!!

I dont even know if it fits on mine! :S
 
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 01:20 AM
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Dropping really changes the stance and look of the car, but like wes i need the clearance for snow...
 
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Csquared
Dropping really changes the stance and look of the car, but like wes i need the clearance for snow...
IM soo confused.. i want to lower it for the look and handling.. but i dont want to be switching tires every 8,000 miles
 
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 01:31 AM
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When/if I lower my car, I'm only going down about 1/2". It's my understanding that at that drop level camber arms aren't needed (fronts at least). I'm not sure about the rear.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 09:05 AM
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Check out IMPULs if you want just a small drop and don't want to get camber kits, but they're more expensive.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Wes_888
Which will improve handling more dramatically? sway bars or a drop?

If u had to choose one only.
From past experience sways will by far have the greatest effect.
The best part of adjustable sways is the ability to tune.

FWIW guys...
Don't go too stiff on your initial setup.
Too stiff & you can loose grip BIG time.
You can get a very nasty surprise when you least expect it.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by san~man
When/if I lower my car, I'm only going down about 1/2". It's my understanding that at that drop level camber arms aren't needed (fronts at least). I'm not sure about the rear.
Originally Posted by boss81
Check out IMPULs if you want just a small drop and don't want to get camber kits, but they're more expensive.
I'm still planning to get a hold of 370Z & G37S coupe springs for some comparison testing.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by InTgr8r
I'm still planning to get a hold of 370Z & G37S coupe springs for some comparison testing.
I wonder if they have a high enough spring rate to work effectively with the stiffer sways?
 
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 01:40 PM
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FYI: Stillen.com has H&R sway bars (application guide states up to 2008), but they're rather expensive. Not sure they'll fit though....
 
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by InTgr8r
From past experience sways will by far have the greatest effect.
The best part of adjustable sways is the ability to tune.

FWIW guys...
Don't go too stiff on your initial setup.
Too stiff & you can loose grip BIG time.
You can get a very nasty surprise when you least expect it.
i recommend leaving it on the lightest setting if you have stock wheels/tires...if you have some wider tires, the middle setting feels okay, but some of those nasty surprises still tend to happen...i might even go to the lowest setting and see how that feels...i started out on the middle setting with stock bald tires LOL, i had a few nasty surprises
 
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 02:44 PM
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My sway bars have been installed. San~man gave a spot-on performance review of the sways. I'm using the outermost setting and handling is more neutral than anything. Body roll has been greatly reduced as I'd expected due to past experience with sways bars on other cars. When my new whees/tires come in, I will definitely try the middle setting (albeit with caution). As for installation, I had it done at my friend's shop so I can't really attest to anything in that regard except for this -- wear gloves or use something other than your bare fingers when applying the silicone grease because that stuff is hard to wash off. Also, the Hotchkis bars are A LOT beefier and heavier than the stock Journey bars, especially the front.

I also concur that sway bars will give you the biggest bang for the buck handling wise. The difference is huge and immediately noticeable. On the other hand, a lowered car does look very nice...hahaha
 
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