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Old May 13, 2005 | 11:13 AM
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The 298hp 05 trades low and midrange power for higher rpm power. Not until around 6000rpms does the 298hp motor actually start making power than the previous VQs and it actually makes less power below 5000rpms than the previous VQ. In gears 1, 2, and 3, you speed very little time accelerating above 6000rpms in these gears because they wrap out so quickly. Now if the 298hp motor gained 38hp across the board, I'd be inclined to agree that the car should be significantly quicker than the one it replaced however when you trade midrange power for high rpm power, you end up with a potentially slower car from 0-70mph and one that will pull better that the top of 4th and 5th. Power under the curve means everything.

Capitol Raceway is also a pretty quick track, especially in cooler air in the Spring thanks to high baropressures and it's decently low elevation (300'). The same goes for E-Town and other sea level and near coastal tracks in the Northeast. Now if he told us the exact day he ran at the track, I could calculate the DA and that would reveal if his 05 is really making good power or if he was running in some decent air. Both you and I know that good conditions can mean the difference between running a .4 seconds and 3mph faster/slower with no changes to the car.

We'll have to wait and see what the other 05s are doing. I know of two 05s 6MTs in FL that are only getting 96-97mph traps.
Wow, that's a big piece of the puzzle I was missing on the power range of the new 298 pony cars...makes things even more interesting. The proof is in the pudding and running a flat 14.00 or 14.1 with low miles and a full car is great...

DAVE B...what are you doing exactly to launch best? I remember you saying something about flash braking vs. power braking or something like that?
 
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Old May 13, 2005 | 04:38 PM
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I also have run over 20 times now. My slowest trap speed was @98mph. My fastest is 101.24. I've run over 100 mph 4 times and 100 mph twice. The first time I went to the track was 2 weeks ago and my best time was 14.13. Last week was when I ran the 14.063 and that was the best run of the 8 I ran last week. I plan on doing more runs in the near future, and I also plan on buying the HKS Hi Ti exhaust in July and make several runs with that and see if any difference occurs. It will be harder to tell because of the hot and humid temps in July. I will keep everyone posted on the progress of the times and speeds as I progress through my mods. I might be getting a spacer sometime soon. So we will see what that does for me as well.
 
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Old May 13, 2005 | 11:48 PM
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The exact day I ran that particular time was last Friday evening. After 5:30. Temp was low 60's to high 50's.
According to wunderground.com, the conditions on 5/6/05 in Crofton, MD were as follows:

Baro pressure: ~30.15
Temp: ~55 degrees
Dew point: ~43 degrees
Elevation: 300' above sea level

Conditions corrected to Density Altitude: 34' below sea level. Air density was 100.1%. This basically means the conditions were ideal for racing and weren't working against the car at all. 13.9-14.1@101+ is what I'd expect out of a 03+ 6 speed coupe/sedan in conditions like this assuming the launch and shifting is decent. I believe there are a couple 03/04 6MT owners doing 13.9-14.1@101mph with 2.1 60 foots too. Either way, you've got a strong running car and it's quicker than most in here though it's hard to tell if that extra power is being put to much use in the 1/4 mile. Trap speed is the indication of available HP and your traps aren't any better than some of the stock 03/04 6MT coupes/sedans.
 
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Old May 13, 2005 | 11:54 PM
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DAVE B...what are you doing exactly to launch best? I remember you saying something about flash braking vs. power braking or something like that?
I simply hold the brake, bring the revs up to around 900rpms to remove driveline slack and to preload the rear, and then when it's time to go I put the pedal in the floor and almost instantly release the brakes. This results in about a 2000-2200rpm flash stall. I was getting consistent low 2.2s like this. I've found that holding the brake and gas in an effort to develop a little more stall rpm only seems to result in a boggy launch. I think the Nissan nanny must become involved when this method is used. I just wish we could come off the line as hard as the 350Z autos. Higher 2.0s seem to be the norm with the Z autos and sometimes a 1.9 thrown in. If we could pull 2.0 60 foots, we'd easily be .3 quicker.
 
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Old May 14, 2005 | 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by DaveB
I simply hold the brake, bring the revs up to around 900rpms to remove driveline slack and to preload the rear, and then when it's time to go I put the pedal in the floor and almost instantly release the brakes. This results in about a 2000-2200rpm flash stall. I was getting consistent low 2.2s like this. I've found that holding the brake and gas in an effort to develop a little more stall rpm only seems to result in a boggy launch. I think the Nissan nanny must become involved when this method is used. I just wish we could come off the line as hard as the 350Z autos. Higher 2.0s seem to be the norm with the Z autos and sometimes a 1.9 thrown in. If we could pull 2.0 60 foots, we'd easily be .3 quicker.
I just printed that b/c I ran two effing 14.00s and my 60' times were actually bettter than I thought. I keep a log book of all my runs and everything is documented down to the time and temp and conditions, etc...and on one 14.00 I ran a 2.191 60' and on the other I ran a 2.159...I went back and looked at all my runs...some good 2.1+s and some horrendous 2.4+s...but most are actually in the 2.25 range...so not as bad as I thought...I know, by luck, I have come close to your "Flash" launch, but I don't think I have ever done it to the "T." But you are only talking about low 2.2s, and I am already better than that and still not cracking 14.0...I have about 7 runs of 14.0+...it's sickning...and I was running in temps as low as the 40's and 50's last summer/fall b/c it was just nice all year.

Why exactly do you call it a "Flash" launch?

I will try again some time when I get all caught up with things around the house...I have to get my mustang back up there too...and maybe the Sierra Denali for $hits and giggles...I would love to throw the Nitto Drag radials on my wife's 02 Maxima SE 4AT and see what that would too.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 01:00 AM
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my fasts is 13.93 @ 99.58 mph
 
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 01:16 AM
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Dude, that's great...what kind of car do you have...you listed all the mods, and the ones you were waiting on, but not the car and tranny?
 
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 02:08 AM
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g35 coupe 6mt
 
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 09:45 PM
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Went back to the track last week.

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14.421 @97.15mph (stock)
2.174 60'

Installed spacer yesterday, going back to track next wednesday.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 07:36 PM
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ok...just wanted to make some comments. I just got my g35x 4 days ago, so I am new to the forum. I just sat here are read every post in this thread. Man, alot of you guys really act like the ricer honda crowd and are way to much into bench racing and dyno numbers. Nonetheless, alot of other members are pretty cool and actually know what they are talking about. I think most of the people on here are making way to big a deal of how fast the G/350z is. In reality they are both slow. Anything that runs 14's is slow. If you are really into drag racing, 13's are slow. If your street car is not in the 12's - it is slow. For what it is, the G is a great car - but it is not a drag car. My 04 GTO auto runs 13.5 at 104mph with a 2.0 60ft on the stock all season tires. While it will smoke any 350z/g35 - it is not a fast car. Most cars are not fast. I know that being "fast" is a relative term, depending on what you are comparing, but there are very few cars that are made today that are FAST. Sure the G will outrun probably 65-70% of cars out there so it seams like it is fast to many of you, but it really is not that fast of a car. I mean when a new Subaru Forrester can take out most G's, (a few of you have posted faster times stock) you cant say that you have that fast a car.

With all that said, I am glad this thread got away from the 5 or so pages of stupid posts bashing the RX-8. The RX-8 can run a mid-14 under the right conditions....big deal.

Has anyone run a 05 G35X at the track, just wondering. I would expect a 14.8 or so. I will probably take it once it has enough miles on it just to see what it will do. That probably wont be till the fall though.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 10:28 AM
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The title of the thread asks for times to be posted. Instead, we are called ricers and our cars slow. Niiiiice.

Here's a post answering your question: https://g35driver.com/forums/g35-sedan-v35-2003-06/53763-good-bad-05-g35x.html

Try a search instead of a scolding and you'll make more friends, friend.

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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 04:34 PM
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I wasnt trying to be mean or scold anyone...I just thought that the members of this forum would conduct themselves with a little more maturity than the honda crowd.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 08:25 PM
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Is there something wrong with displacing some stress on a flamer who asks for it time and again? Man I must of had a bad week LOL
 
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 04:03 PM
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Is there something wrong with displacing some stress on a flamer who asks for it time and again? Man I must of had a bad week LOL
I guess not The ricer comment stung a lil' bit (not to mention SLOW)

Flame away, my man!!!
 
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 12:11 PM
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but there are very few cars that are made today that are FAST. Sure the G will outrun probably 65-70% of cars out there so it seams like it is fast to many of you, but it really is not that fast of a car.
I'm not here to nit pick, but man you need to think about this for a minute. If it will outrun 65-70% of cars on the road I'd call that fast compared to other stock vehicles. Now look at the cars in its class. It is slow compared to some/most of them. The class I am defining is the 2 door coupe, FWIW:

Mustang
350Z
RX8
S2000
GTO
M3
3 series
Mercedes class (can't think of the model)

To name a few. I'd say the G is slower than most of them listed there. Big deal. I had a Grand Prix that would leave alot of V8 cars wondering what the hell I had done. If you are running 14's or better in a 4/6 cylinder you are fast...my opinion of course...because most cars from the factory are knocking on 16's.

BTW you are also going to experience bias on a car forum that is devoted to a particular car. If you think going to a single car community to point fingers at a "my car is better than yours" attitude you may want to visit some forums OTHER than this one. I'd say you are being a tad shortsighted on that comment. There are some here who just don't care, but others take pride in their ride and get defensive or a "complex" about other cars of comparable features. You will never change that. If there is a Ferrari forum you will see more of the same there too I would think

Looking at this thread I'm very unimpressed with the way the G handles performance mods. I see some guys running a grand worth of parts and are doing maybe a few tenths of a second quicker in the 1/4. Man in some cars a grand gets you SECONDS of time off. That is my only real gripe with the car. Now here is where a complex person steps in and says "you have a luxury coupe...those guys running 12's or low 13's still drive home in a XXX and not an Infiniti". I could care less what badge is on the damn car, but I'm still unimpressed on where performance mods get this car. I have a hard time mustering up $6K or more (FI mods) for a seconds worth of 1/4 mile time. But again, depends on why you have the G. I have no intentions of going that far now, because as stated I did buy the car for the looks and luxury...not the all out drag race performance--I just thought it was a little disheartening to see where the $$ would get me.

Summary: If you bought it to be a flat out drag race killer...you bought the wrong car. If you like a peppy coupe that still has all the luxury toys then you have what you should have. The GTO is nice, but certainly doesn't bring to the table what the G does and I am sure that is why you bought the G and why you bought the GTO in the first place .
 
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