Wrathernaut's Double-Din Installation FAQ, Shopping and Resource List
#1081
Hi there, similar to other previous post, I wanted to verify the items I need before I make any unneccesary purchases.
I am getting ready to put in an aftermarket stereo due a jammed cd changer. I will not be doing it myself as I've never done something like this before but I am buying all the necessary things that are required for a shop to do it.
I have a 2004 G35 Coupe with Navigation.
I have purchased the JDM DD kit.
I am purchasing the Pioneer AVHP2400BT.
Do I need to purchase the following for the following reasons? I want to understand what an installer would be doing. I also want to purchase the best items for the job.
1) Metra Axxess ASWC - for steering wheel controls
2) Metra 40-NI10 - for radio antenna adapter. In otherwords to make the radio (AM/FM) work.
3) PAC ROEMNIS2 - for retaining factory amplified sound system
Are all of the above items required to have the ideal installation?
Is a ring required for around the new aftermarket stereo so there is no gap?
I'm also in Canada, does anyone have any recommendations for the cheapest place to get the items required?
Thanks for your help.
I am getting ready to put in an aftermarket stereo due a jammed cd changer. I will not be doing it myself as I've never done something like this before but I am buying all the necessary things that are required for a shop to do it.
I have a 2004 G35 Coupe with Navigation.
I have purchased the JDM DD kit.
I am purchasing the Pioneer AVHP2400BT.
Do I need to purchase the following for the following reasons? I want to understand what an installer would be doing. I also want to purchase the best items for the job.
1) Metra Axxess ASWC - for steering wheel controls
2) Metra 40-NI10 - for radio antenna adapter. In otherwords to make the radio (AM/FM) work.
3) PAC ROEMNIS2 - for retaining factory amplified sound system
Are all of the above items required to have the ideal installation?
Is a ring required for around the new aftermarket stereo so there is no gap?
I'm also in Canada, does anyone have any recommendations for the cheapest place to get the items required?
Thanks for your help.
#1082
Hi there, similar to other previous post, I wanted to verify the items I need before I make any unneccesary purchases.
I am getting ready to put in an aftermarket stereo due a jammed cd changer. I will not be doing it myself as I've never done something like this before but I am buying all the necessary things that are required for a shop to do it.
I have a 2004 G35 Coupe with Navigation.
I have purchased the JDM DD kit.
I am purchasing the Pioneer AVHP2400BT.
Do I need to purchase the following for the following reasons? I want to understand what an installer would be doing. I also want to purchase the best items for the job.
1) Metra Axxess ASWC - for steering wheel controls
2) Metra 40-NI10 - for radio antenna adapter. In otherwords to make the radio (AM/FM) work.
3) PAC ROEMNIS2 - for retaining factory amplified sound system
Are all of the above items required to have the ideal installation?
Is a ring required for around the new aftermarket stereo so there is no gap?
I'm also in Canada, does anyone have any recommendations for the cheapest place to get the items required?
Thanks for your help.
I am getting ready to put in an aftermarket stereo due a jammed cd changer. I will not be doing it myself as I've never done something like this before but I am buying all the necessary things that are required for a shop to do it.
I have a 2004 G35 Coupe with Navigation.
I have purchased the JDM DD kit.
I am purchasing the Pioneer AVHP2400BT.
Do I need to purchase the following for the following reasons? I want to understand what an installer would be doing. I also want to purchase the best items for the job.
1) Metra Axxess ASWC - for steering wheel controls
2) Metra 40-NI10 - for radio antenna adapter. In otherwords to make the radio (AM/FM) work.
3) PAC ROEMNIS2 - for retaining factory amplified sound system
Are all of the above items required to have the ideal installation?
Is a ring required for around the new aftermarket stereo so there is no gap?
I'm also in Canada, does anyone have any recommendations for the cheapest place to get the items required?
Thanks for your help.
The photos of the parts that come with the AVH-P2400BT do not show a trim ring at all. This is something that is probably best left to the shop to take care of, as they may already have some excess trim and do it as part of the installation, just make sure they are aware there will be a gap and that they have the parts to do it.
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#1083
#1084
Just wanted to know if anybody knows if I need this as well for my Bose system to keep the OEM sound
#1085
Just wanted to know if anybody knows if I need this as well for my Bose system to keep the OEM sound
http://www.amazon.com/ROEMNIS2-Inter...d_bxgy_e_img_z
http://www.amazon.com/ROEMNIS2-Inter...d_bxgy_e_img_z
#1087
Reverse signal in wiring harness
Alright I am looking for Reverse signal wire In the driver kick panel (harness referenced in this thread). I see purple/white (this is not it). I see purple twisted with orange (assume this is not either) and then I have other Two purple wires. One has a single grey dot an the other has two grey dots. Is this going to the left and right reverse lights so either will work or am I totally off here. I will try to post a photo from my phone but not sure If m.g35driver.com will allow it
EDIT: Answer
So i pulled off the trim piece in the trunk and saw that the purple with the single white dot was running to the harness that connects to the brake/reverse light. Maybe the purple with the double dot runs to the other side...but i did not check this. I stripped the purple with single dot to confirm it is 12V when in reverse, 0V when not. Problem solved (early 2003 6MT coupe)
EDIT: Answer
So i pulled off the trim piece in the trunk and saw that the purple with the single white dot was running to the harness that connects to the brake/reverse light. Maybe the purple with the double dot runs to the other side...but i did not check this. I stripped the purple with single dot to confirm it is 12V when in reverse, 0V when not. Problem solved (early 2003 6MT coupe)
Last edited by scott_atm; 09-15-2012 at 05:22 PM. Reason: Adding Answer
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#1088
Yes, you'll need all those parts. Purchasing them yourself ensures that the shop isn't enhancing the price to line their pockets. Some shops will charge $80-90 for the ASWC and similar for the ROEM-NIS2. None of them are going to charge less than you can pick it up online for.
The photos of the parts that come with the AVH-P2400BT do not show a trim ring at all. This is something that is probably best left to the shop to take care of, as they may already have some excess trim and do it as part of the installation, just make sure they are aware there will be a gap and that they have the parts to do it.
The photos of the parts that come with the AVH-P2400BT do not show a trim ring at all. This is something that is probably best left to the shop to take care of, as they may already have some excess trim and do it as part of the installation, just make sure they are aware there will be a gap and that they have the parts to do it.
As Wrather said though, if you're paying somebody to install it, it's a pretty moot point since they should be taking care of that for you anyways.
Last edited by RastaManMax; 09-18-2012 at 12:06 PM.
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Wrathernaut (09-18-2012)
#1089
My musings after completing the DD install
First off i wanted to share my shopping list with prices. I feel it is helpful to know what other people have paid for the same components.
Radio AVH-P8400BH $493.99 abt
iPod Cable CD-IU201S $55.79 amazon
Antenna Kit 40-NI10 $10.20 amazon
Harness ROEMNIS2 $36.99 amazon
Steering Wheel Ctrl Metra Axxess ASWC $41.79 amazon
Parking Brake ovrd Microbypass $24.01 amazon
Backup Camera VTL420C $48.89 amazon
Dash Kit JDM $323.99 Concept Z
Nothing was difficult on through process but it was time consuming. If you just are dropping in a radio, should be a relatively short process (2-3 hours) but if you plan to install a backup camera, the more than doubles. The issues I ran into were
1) it was a pain to get into the wiring harness with the reverse tap and once there it took me a while to find the correct wire
2) it was a pain to get the backup camera cable through the grommet above the license plate. The issue i had was that the existing cable was too tight for me to untape the grommet from the existing cable. In the end after spending at least 30 minutes trying to stick my hand behind the bumper from under the car to blindly release a cable tie, i decided just to work through the trunk with very little slack in the cable.
3) It took a bit of time to ensure the radio was flush to the front of the dash. And then getting the trim piece (which came with my radio) properly fitted was a bit tedious
4) My car (early 03 6MT coupe) had a few more screws holding in trim pieces than shown in any of the guides. Just a bit of a surprise to read "remove one screw" and then after pulling a bit realizing that there actually are two screws in my car
Other than those minor snags it all went very smoothly. I took the entire day to get my car buttoned back up (nearly 12 hours start to finish....but I had other projects i was doing at the same time). I tested everything before pushing the radio in, but unfortunately hit the switch to mirror my backup camera when cramming all the cables behind the radio. It meant that i had to pull off the side covers for the center console and try to move around wires to get to the switch again. This was at least another hour and a few cuts on my fingers as i was trying to reach behind the radio without pulling the entire thing out again.
My words of advice beyond all the great posts in this thread: Get all the wires and wiring harnesses tucked below the radio not behind it. This will probably take two people but could save you hours of headache.
I am second guessing my choice in radio. I went with the P8400 because it had HD radio, but i also was eyeing the Appradio2. I am waffling now because the screen on the P8400, while reasonable in resolution does not have the finish of the nice smooth capacitive touch screens. It is tough to describe, but it almost is like there is a permanent screen protector (which is the touch sensor). If i had not read so many horrible reviews of the AppRadio2, i would have gone with it to begin with as it is a bit cheaper and comes with ipod cable and external gps antenna. The only thing holding me back is a lack of HD radio.
Pictures will follow
Radio AVH-P8400BH $493.99 abt
iPod Cable CD-IU201S $55.79 amazon
Antenna Kit 40-NI10 $10.20 amazon
Harness ROEMNIS2 $36.99 amazon
Steering Wheel Ctrl Metra Axxess ASWC $41.79 amazon
Parking Brake ovrd Microbypass $24.01 amazon
Backup Camera VTL420C $48.89 amazon
Dash Kit JDM $323.99 Concept Z
Nothing was difficult on through process but it was time consuming. If you just are dropping in a radio, should be a relatively short process (2-3 hours) but if you plan to install a backup camera, the more than doubles. The issues I ran into were
1) it was a pain to get into the wiring harness with the reverse tap and once there it took me a while to find the correct wire
2) it was a pain to get the backup camera cable through the grommet above the license plate. The issue i had was that the existing cable was too tight for me to untape the grommet from the existing cable. In the end after spending at least 30 minutes trying to stick my hand behind the bumper from under the car to blindly release a cable tie, i decided just to work through the trunk with very little slack in the cable.
3) It took a bit of time to ensure the radio was flush to the front of the dash. And then getting the trim piece (which came with my radio) properly fitted was a bit tedious
4) My car (early 03 6MT coupe) had a few more screws holding in trim pieces than shown in any of the guides. Just a bit of a surprise to read "remove one screw" and then after pulling a bit realizing that there actually are two screws in my car
Other than those minor snags it all went very smoothly. I took the entire day to get my car buttoned back up (nearly 12 hours start to finish....but I had other projects i was doing at the same time). I tested everything before pushing the radio in, but unfortunately hit the switch to mirror my backup camera when cramming all the cables behind the radio. It meant that i had to pull off the side covers for the center console and try to move around wires to get to the switch again. This was at least another hour and a few cuts on my fingers as i was trying to reach behind the radio without pulling the entire thing out again.
My words of advice beyond all the great posts in this thread: Get all the wires and wiring harnesses tucked below the radio not behind it. This will probably take two people but could save you hours of headache.
I am second guessing my choice in radio. I went with the P8400 because it had HD radio, but i also was eyeing the Appradio2. I am waffling now because the screen on the P8400, while reasonable in resolution does not have the finish of the nice smooth capacitive touch screens. It is tough to describe, but it almost is like there is a permanent screen protector (which is the touch sensor). If i had not read so many horrible reviews of the AppRadio2, i would have gone with it to begin with as it is a bit cheaper and comes with ipod cable and external gps antenna. The only thing holding me back is a lack of HD radio.
Pictures will follow
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#1090
First off i wanted to share my shopping list with prices. I feel it is helpful to know what other people have paid for the same components.
Radio AVH-P8400BH $493.99 abt
iPod Cable CD-IU201S $55.79 amazon
Antenna Kit 40-NI10 $10.20 amazon
Harness ROEMNIS2 $36.99 amazon
Steering Wheel Ctrl Metra Axxess ASWC $41.79 amazon
Parking Brake ovrd Microbypass $24.01 amazon
Backup Camera VTL420C $48.89 amazon
Dash Kit JDM $323.99 Concept Z
Nothing was difficult on through process but it was time consuming. If you just are dropping in a radio, should be a relatively short process (2-3 hours) but if you plan to install a backup camera, the more than doubles. The issues I ran into were
1) it was a pain to get into the wiring harness with the reverse tap and once there it took me a while to find the correct wire
2) it was a pain to get the backup camera cable through the grommet above the license plate. The issue i had was that the existing cable was too tight for me to untape the grommet from the existing cable. In the end after spending at least 30 minutes trying to stick my hand behind the bumper from under the car to blindly release a cable tie, i decided just to work through the trunk with very little slack in the cable.
3) It took a bit of time to ensure the radio was flush to the front of the dash. And then getting the trim piece (which came with my radio) properly fitted was a bit tedious
4) My car (early 03 6MT coupe) had a few more screws holding in trim pieces than shown in any of the guides. Just a bit of a surprise to read "remove one screw" and then after pulling a bit realizing that there actually are two screws in my car
Other than those minor snags it all went very smoothly. I took the entire day to get my car buttoned back up (nearly 12 hours start to finish....but I had other projects i was doing at the same time). I tested everything before pushing the radio in, but unfortunately hit the switch to mirror my backup camera when cramming all the cables behind the radio. It meant that i had to pull off the side covers for the center console and try to move around wires to get to the switch again. This was at least another hour and a few cuts on my fingers as i was trying to reach behind the radio without pulling the entire thing out again.
My words of advice beyond all the great posts in this thread: Get all the wires and wiring harnesses tucked below the radio not behind it. This will probably take two people but could save you hours of headache.
I am second guessing my choice in radio. I went with the P8400 because it had HD radio, but i also was eyeing the Appradio2. I am waffling now because the screen on the P8400, while reasonable in resolution does not have the finish of the nice smooth capacitive touch screens. It is tough to describe, but it almost is like there is a permanent screen protector (which is the touch sensor). If i had not read so many horrible reviews of the AppRadio2, i would have gone with it to begin with as it is a bit cheaper and comes with ipod cable and external gps antenna. The only thing holding me back is a lack of HD radio.
Pictures will follow
Radio AVH-P8400BH $493.99 abt
iPod Cable CD-IU201S $55.79 amazon
Antenna Kit 40-NI10 $10.20 amazon
Harness ROEMNIS2 $36.99 amazon
Steering Wheel Ctrl Metra Axxess ASWC $41.79 amazon
Parking Brake ovrd Microbypass $24.01 amazon
Backup Camera VTL420C $48.89 amazon
Dash Kit JDM $323.99 Concept Z
Nothing was difficult on through process but it was time consuming. If you just are dropping in a radio, should be a relatively short process (2-3 hours) but if you plan to install a backup camera, the more than doubles. The issues I ran into were
1) it was a pain to get into the wiring harness with the reverse tap and once there it took me a while to find the correct wire
2) it was a pain to get the backup camera cable through the grommet above the license plate. The issue i had was that the existing cable was too tight for me to untape the grommet from the existing cable. In the end after spending at least 30 minutes trying to stick my hand behind the bumper from under the car to blindly release a cable tie, i decided just to work through the trunk with very little slack in the cable.
3) It took a bit of time to ensure the radio was flush to the front of the dash. And then getting the trim piece (which came with my radio) properly fitted was a bit tedious
4) My car (early 03 6MT coupe) had a few more screws holding in trim pieces than shown in any of the guides. Just a bit of a surprise to read "remove one screw" and then after pulling a bit realizing that there actually are two screws in my car
Other than those minor snags it all went very smoothly. I took the entire day to get my car buttoned back up (nearly 12 hours start to finish....but I had other projects i was doing at the same time). I tested everything before pushing the radio in, but unfortunately hit the switch to mirror my backup camera when cramming all the cables behind the radio. It meant that i had to pull off the side covers for the center console and try to move around wires to get to the switch again. This was at least another hour and a few cuts on my fingers as i was trying to reach behind the radio without pulling the entire thing out again.
My words of advice beyond all the great posts in this thread: Get all the wires and wiring harnesses tucked below the radio not behind it. This will probably take two people but could save you hours of headache.
I am second guessing my choice in radio. I went with the P8400 because it had HD radio, but i also was eyeing the Appradio2. I am waffling now because the screen on the P8400, while reasonable in resolution does not have the finish of the nice smooth capacitive touch screens. It is tough to describe, but it almost is like there is a permanent screen protector (which is the touch sensor). If i had not read so many horrible reviews of the AppRadio2, i would have gone with it to begin with as it is a bit cheaper and comes with ipod cable and external gps antenna. The only thing holding me back is a lack of HD radio.
Pictures will follow
#1091
Scott
#1092
I'm planning on changing the bose amp when I install the 8400 and a friend gave me his amp that he had on his Honda. The SPX Pro Audio Amplifier does anybody know if this amp a better choice then the stock bose amp on the 06 coupe. Sorry for the noob question.
This is the amp.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SPX-Pro-Audi...item27cb07ce37
This is the amp.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SPX-Pro-Audi...item27cb07ce37
#1094
I'm planning on changing the bose amp when I install the 8400 and a friend gave me his amp that he had on his Honda. The SPX Pro Audio Amplifier does anybody know if this amp a better choice then the stock bose amp on the 06 coupe. Sorry for the noob question.
This is the amp.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SPX-Pro-Audi...item27cb07ce37
This is the amp.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SPX-Pro-Audi...item27cb07ce37
#1095