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Old 11-13-2012, 10:05 PM
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I have the p3400bh and my iphone 5 works great on the pandora app while plugged into the usb on front. Bluetooth works as well but i am not able to change the song via steering wheel controls on bluetooth. With it plugged in on the pandora app i have full control. I don't think it is a problem with the deck on bluetooth but a problem with apples product as it is not only pioneer decks that bluetooth doesn't work on.
 
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Old 12-10-2012, 02:56 AM
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Quick question - I've assembled nearly everything I think I need to do my DD conversion.... but I'm wondering if I need this still in order to do it. it's not listed in Wrathernaught's parts list... It's a JDM Double Din Conversion Bracket - but it's been insisted to me that I need to get one in order to replace my factory unit with an aftermarket DD headunit :/

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Do I really need this? Or will the existing bracket that's inside my car already work for putting in a DD unit... or for that matter could the existing bracket be modified to fit a DD unit - if so I'm perfectly capable of a little custom work.
 

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Old 12-10-2012, 06:47 AM
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That is the factory bracket, just use your own.
 
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Old 12-10-2012, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by CLRH2O
Quick question - I've assembled nearly everything I think I need to do my DD conversion.... but I'm wondering if I need this still in order to do it. it's not listed in Wrathernaught's parts list... It's a JDM Double Din Conversion Bracket - but it's been insisted to me that I need to get one in order to replace my factory unit with an aftermarket DD headunit :/

What gives?!



Do I really need this? Or will the existing bracket that's inside my car already work for putting in a DD unit... or for that matter could the existing bracket be modified to fit a DD unit - if so I'm perfectly capable of a little custom work.
It's very well covered in the main post. Second question in the FAQs. Searching the text of the page would have brought you instantly to the answer. But Blue Dream's right - it's just a factory bracket, identical to the one in your car.
 
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Old 12-10-2012, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Wrathernaut
It's very well covered in the main post. Second question in the FAQs. Searching the text of the page would have brought you instantly to the answer. But Blue Dream's right - it's just a factory bracket, identical to the one in your car.
Oh me gosh - how on earth did I miss that. Of course you're right, it's in the FAQ post under the top most picture of the wiring loom.. Apologies :O I guess I skipped that text assuming it was related to the picture above it (like subtext for that pic)


'Do I need a new bracket?
No, the factory bracket is re-used and will hold any aftermarket double-din. New holes may need to be drilled into it to make placement of the radio optimal (see flush mounting in the above post), but a new bracket would only give extra identical parts.'


Thank you - you're work and information here is proving to be indispensable
 
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:59 AM
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Just installed my ddin yay finally. Got some questions. I used the Metra 70-7550 harness. I showed my installer the pac roem for bose, and the normal metra.

He said, "I integrated your amp with the metra harness already, if you want me to install the other one, I can do it but its going to sound the same and do nothing. Your amp is running with the kit I installed and there would be no sound if the amp wasnt plugged in."

Something along those lines. I mean, my new JVC NT3 hits hard, but almost the same as my old stock HU. Its just the clarity in music is night and day with the new deck. So what should I do, is he right? Im a complete noob.
 
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:09 AM
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If it works with the standard wiring harness, you should be ok, the bose amp is very inconsistent on whether it works or does not. It will either be A) very, very quiet, B) normal volume and noisy with very poor bass or C) almost identical to stock. Since the number of people who had A or B outnumbers C, it's not worth people trying to save $20 on parts to potentially waste 1-2 hours in labor (especially if they're paying for that labor) when the ROEM option works 99.9% of the time.
 
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Old 12-13-2012, 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Wrathernaut
If it works with the standard wiring harness, you should be ok, the bose amp is very inconsistent on whether it works or does not. It will either be A) very, very quiet, B) normal volume and noisy with very poor bass or C) almost identical to stock. Since the number of people who had A or B outnumbers C, it's not worth people trying to save $20 on parts to potentially waste 1-2 hours in labor (especially if they're paying for that labor) when the ROEM option works 99.9% of the time.
Interesting. I'm thinking of changing it to the ROEM option. On the actual head unit settings that I have, I have to lower the master volume all the way down, so I can turn up the actual volume to have the bass hit harder and have the vocals hit softer, but some times the vocals become very high pitched and start to make my ears bleed, or atleast feels like it. I messed with the equalizer and I can't find the right balance. Honestly my iPhone plugged into my casette tape deck adapter hit a lot harder it feels like. Also Wrathernaut can you answer my question in the AC conditioning issue thread haha. Thanks!
 
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Old 12-27-2012, 12:40 PM
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OK final question. I just got around to installing the PAC ROEM harness to hook up to my OEM bose amp, and the difference was very minimal. The 2 rear speakers are actually a lot lower than my 2 front speakers and the bass still does not hit as hard as before in my stock head unit. The sound coming from the rears are probably 50% less than the sound coming from the front speakers, and my left front speaker is a tad bit louder than the front right speaker. Is it just a wiring issue? I'm not sure if he tapped into the bose amp or if he bypassed the bose amp for JVC head internal amp, its driving me crazy how much the sound quality has decreased since the HU upgrade.
 
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Old 12-27-2012, 12:58 PM
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You'd have to take it up with your installer. Almost everyone who does it themselves, following this guide has no problems at all. Installers, on the other hand, do things their own way.
 
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Rear speaker sounds weaker

Originally Posted by iamchris
OK final question. I just got around to installing the PAC ROEM harness to hook up to my OEM bose amp, and the difference was very minimal. The 2 rear speakers are actually a lot lower than my 2 front speakers and the bass still does not hit as hard as before in my stock head unit. The sound coming from the rears are probably 50% less than the sound coming from the front speakers, and my left front speaker is a tad bit louder than the front right speaker. Is it just a wiring issue? I'm not sure if he tapped into the bose amp or if he bypassed the bose amp for JVC head internal amp, its driving me crazy how much the sound quality has decreased since the HU upgrade.
I'm using the PAC ROEM as well with stock speaker and stock Bose subwoofer. My rear speakers sounds clear, but it does sound a lot wearker than my fronts. I thought it was just how it was suppose to be but after reading your post, i'll take it as a red flag. Everything else sounds good. My stock subwoofer kicks a lot harder too. Now I just need to find out how to control the nasty bass coming out of my speakers without affecting my subwoofer, as my Pioneer avh400bh High-Pass Filter settings also lowers my subwoofers bass. And how does your radio station sound like? All my radio stations have a lot of static unless im in a good part of the city.
 
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:25 PM
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Been at my install for more than a few days on my free time after work - Bracket Drilling (I think I just about perfectly nailed what I was going for here - will have pics to show once all done), DualMode button swapping (that worked out just fine), Harness Wiring.. So today when I went to go put in everything after completing the wiring (or thinking I had) the head unit does not power up. I'd checked it's fuse, good there. I'd gone over the wiring I cant tell you how many times.. and didn't know what was up.

Then with the help of forum member "zemaji" (thank you mate!) I got it. And whoa baby do I feel stupid.

But then again - it *should* have worked. See, for whatever reason, the ground wire on the OEM harness.. well - it's not grounded. WOW! Why even HAVE a ground wire there then?!

Anyway, when I put in a new wire that ran from the two black (and in my case, also the pastel green for the parking brake bypass) to the actual chassis of the car - BAM! Up and running

Here is my wiring:



The brown and blue wires twisted together at the bottom right of the pic are the Tel Muting and Power Antenna lines. The G35 has no power antenna (and I don't listen to ANY radio what so ever) so I just ignored those lines.

So - I'll put up my install shots and all that fun stuff in the next few days. But until then I do have one other question:

I'm installing a JVC KW-AVX820 head-unit, and I mistakenly bought the PAC "SWI-PS" steering wheel adapter (instead of the Axxess one)..... Is there any way I can use this sucker instead of having lost $50 and still having to go off and spend another $50 on the metra one? Thanks in advance if so - I'd love some info on how to make it work
 

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Old 01-10-2013, 06:28 AM
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Been at my install for more than a few days on my free time after work - Bracket Drilling (I think I just about perfectly nailed what I was going for here - will have pics to show once all done)
Look forward to the pics

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But then again - it *should* have worked. See, for whatever reason, the ground wire on the OEM harness.. well - it's not grounded. WOW! Why even HAVE a ground wire there then?!
Some aftermarket radios (like the factory unit) ground themselves to the chassis, so that's why there's one as part of the harness.

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Anyway, when I put in a new wire that ran from the two black (and in my case, also the pastel green for the parking brake bypass) to the actual chassis of the car - BAM! Up and running
That's why the wiring guide tells you to do this

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Here is my wiring:
The unit is the OEM-1. The ROEM-NIS2 is the model number for the package which includes the OEM-1 and the NISsan wiring, version 2.

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The brown and blue wires twisted together at the bottom right of the pic are the Tel Muting and Power Antenna lines. The G35 has no power antenna (and I don't listen to ANY radio what so ever) so I just ignored those lines.
No power antenna, but the antenna amplifier makes ours a powerED antenna.

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So - I'll put up my install shots and all that fun stuff in the next few days. But until then I do have one other question:

I'm installing a JVC KW-AVX820 head-unit, and I mistakenly bought the PAC "SWI-PS" steering wheel adapter (instead of the Axxess one)..... Is there any way I can use this sucker instead of having lost $50 and still having to go off and spend another $50 on the metra one? Thanks in advance if so - I'd love some info on how to make it work
Not with the JVC, if it were the SWI-JACK, you'd be able to use it, the -PS is for Pioneer and Sony. Send it back and pick up the Axxess.
 
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Old 01-10-2013, 06:36 AM
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Good deal man glad to hear it worked
 
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So figured I'd get some input on what I should do for my double din install. I have taken my G to almost a dozen so called car audio specialists who have either told me that having my factory nav work after my install wont work or they tell me it will work but is is going to cost upwards of 1500.00 to install with the crappy metra kit. I know a lot of members have been doing the install themselves but I just dont feel comfortable enough to do it and then it come out out crappy and me be mad at myself. Another reason I WANT to do it myself is because no shop will warranty the work if I purchase the JDM kit and have them use that one instead of the metra which I kinda understand but I mean really whats there to break on the kit rather then them mess up on the wiring and if there isnt a warranty whats the point in me paying them to do it? This whole experiance has been painful to say the least and I just really want a good clean double din setup for my G.
 


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