I listed his mods that gain power and the ones for safety, go back and read.

LOL, believe what you want, but I believe the experts who actually test the cars correctly.

 

in all seriousness Gman2004 has a huge amount of knowledge - his car is seriously fast with over 550whp or around that anyway. He's gone thru multiple engine rebuilds. He's owned a vortech and a Greddy TT on the same car. He has a ton of knowledge and has a lot of real info to share with people.

Him or I are not here to make fun of stillen or whatever or make wild crazy false claims. Take it or leave it. Glad you're happy with the stillen. It's a decent kit for the money


believe it or not, sport Z magazine is made by a bunch of car enthusiast guys that even they don't always have all the answers - they frequent the forums too just like the rest of us. They just happen to have the platform to share their test results in a publication - and their tests aren't always very scientific really, but they give you what they can


That said, my own dad knows a lot about cars, but when it comes to centrifugal vs roots SC's or turbos, he has everything all mixed up and too much ego to let me correct him, so I don't...

 

Totally irrelevant. You probably spent around 15-20k (minimum...im guessing around 25) on your turbo setup w/ has a ton of extras. If the money was spent right; I would guess your car would hit full boost at a much lower RPM than any off the shelf Greddy kit

 

Here is the post I was refering to. Go here and see it is before you listed the mods so I was refering to all mods mostly the fuel stuff.

https://g35driver.com/forums/showpos...8&postcount=74

The post you are refering to was after I replied.....Keep spining the truth. I stopped reading your misinformation a long time ago.

 

Out of the box the kit should hit FULL boost before 4000 rpms. Go back and read that. I did post that.

 

no that has to do with the size of the turbos more than anything

people don't seem to realized how fast 3700 rpms comes up when you're running 16 lbs of boost - the rpm is the same, but with a light flywheel you're there in a half second. Hell even on my car 3700 comes up way fast with a light flywheel/crank pulley/light wheels/rotors etc

 

because of my 3" exhaust, test pipes, and custom dump tubes I may see full boost a couple hundred rpms sooner, but nothing crazy.

 

yeah I believe it too - I've seen your videos

 

I always give credit where it is due. I went through the same thing that Gman did w/ my last vehicle.. and looking back at it; it was quite a headache. These debates always go way off topic. Here is my point. A car equipped w/ an off the shelf stillen supercharger can hang w/ or simply beat a car equipped w/ an off the shelf vortech; greddy. This applies to city/highway...where most of us spend 99% of our driving time at; and even at the drag strip. And with the Stillen; you won't need to build your block because you won't crack a ring or damage a piston. Whether the damaged motors were due to bad tuning/install or not; that is something I will avoid by all means possible!

 

I don't understand what the hell is the fuzz about stillen making more power below 4K? after the lunch, your RPM will never dip below that, and it takes a blink of an eye to get to 4k especially on FI cars It's the same argument on Single and Twin Turbo, because of the technology LAG is almost non existence any more.

 

It should; but probably doesn't...what were you hitting when you first put the kit on?

 

well I'd have to say that's kinda right (speaking broadly) but it isn't that simple

the turbo kits make so much torque that a stock car can't put it to the ground and just ends up spinning tires at 4k rpms. That'll keep it from moving fast.

The stillen might get ok traction at launch, then the tq stays nice until you reach redline, shift and by now you're at the 5k rpms-redline range where its power starts dropping off. So it does really well in 1st and 2nd gear, but up higher it just starts losing steam

the vortech gets great traction off the line but won't jump off the line as hard as the stillen. Because the boost builds up, it doesn't upset the tires too much. When you reach redline and shift the power is still there a cause that's where it shines.


I've seen poor 1/4 mile times for all kits because people can't drive or get foot happy just flooring it. Would they be even? Possibly. Would the trap speeds be equal? Nope not at all - meaning if all cars had 100% traction the stillen wouldn't be even with a turbo and really the vortech would out do it half way down the 1/4 mile


as for highway or whatever - the turbos and vortech are a downshift away from making quite a bit more power than the stillen

 

Honesly I never drove the car with the out of the box setting. What do you think it would be out of the box?

 

I don't know...but Greddy claims 14 psi off the shelf correct? Don't get me wrong...your setup now is SICK. But I believe that in the hands of anything but the best installers/tuners; the greddy TT usually leads to quick motor failure.

 

"so much" torque?? So what good is your top end when you can't get the power to the ground in 1st-3rd gear? I agree with you on one point.... If you routinely do 3-5 gear WOT pulls and power in that band is most important to you; then more power to you....you should get a turbo kit or vortech. I need a kit that will give me the best acceleration in lower gears; as my G is my daily driver. The scenario where you stated " If traction was 100% equal" has no bearing on this conversation...The info you presented about traction; launching; and powerbands is mostly wrong. Have you been in a car that has had both roots type blower on it and then centrifugal/turbo? If you were familiar w/ their characteristics and not just spitting out text book theory....you'd realize the error in the things you said. I'm really trying to put this out nicely; but....you shouldn't debate about things that you ONLY know of through magazines/google.